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Old 07-18-2005, 11:04 PM
hicherbie hicherbie is offline
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3rd orbit at the table. The CO hasnt done anything but fold hands pf or on the flop. the table has been pretty tight overall.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks.

River: (7.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero .....

two questions: bet and fold to a raise on the turn? and played as is, is this an easy call on the river?
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:15 PM
mr pink mr pink is offline
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i'd call here expecting to see A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or a weirdly played set of kings. possibly another weirdly played AK that you just pulled ahead of, which is why i'd call.
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:27 PM
DemonDeac DemonDeac is offline
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bet and fold to a raise on the turn?

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thats my line
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:06 AM
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Hmmm, a three-bet free card play. I haven't seen that very often.
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Old 07-19-2005, 05:26 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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I agree with Mr. Pink. This looks like a well-played A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] to me.

I don't see the flop value 3-bet/turn check combo a whole lot, though, so I'd probably have to call to make sure. Also, it's not often that I can put my opponent on two exact cards, so if I'd managed to in 20 seconds after the river raise in this hand, I'd probably call to verify my read. (I'm not proud of that reason for calling, by the way.)

Anyway, though, it could be something else. Unfortunately, the second possibility Mr. Pink mentioned -- a KK hand CO decided to get tricky with on the turn after making a boat -- is another decent guess. (It's also another one combo hand, which is another reason to think about calling.)

Anyway, I don't think it's an easy call on the river, but I would probably make it.

On the turn, I don't think CO is checking behind often at all after 3-betting the flop. I would probably just check-fold, actually. Or check-call, if I was feeling stubborn and was paranoid CO might just have AJ.
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Old 07-19-2005, 05:29 AM
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My usually plan after getting 3-bet from a Checkraise is to checkfold the turn. CO may be playing a draw aggressively, but he may also have a number of strong pair hands. River I'd stubbornly call even though I know I should fold.
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Old 07-19-2005, 05:34 AM
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Hmmm, a three-bet free card play. I haven't seen that very often.

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Value, my friend.

AQ [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] played this exceptionally well.
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