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Old 07-18-2005, 01:17 PM
GTSamIAm GTSamIAm is offline
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Default Missed Value Bet

Pot seems too small, and there's a four straight. I have aces up, should I bet? If I only had aces, should I bet or check?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.75.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (5.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Missed Value Bet

Probably. I would have bet the river and probably folded to a raise.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:19 PM
Twitch1977 Twitch1977 is offline
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Default Re: Missed Value Bet

Easy bet in either case.

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Old 07-18-2005, 01:20 PM
silkyslim silkyslim is offline
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Default Re: Missed Value Bet

Remember this is a backdoor draw and villian is unlikely to have it. This looks like a call station calling down with any pair. Bet river for value on this scary board. Also, didn't post BB+dead?
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:20 PM
mwilli31 mwilli31 is offline
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Default Re: Missed Value Bet

Let's say he bet that river instead of checking. Would you have called? If so, bet out and make him call YOUR bet instead. Easy value bet IMHO.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Missed Value Bet

Given the preflop/flop/turn action how likely is he to have a ten?
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:37 PM
Sir Bruce Sir Bruce is offline
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Default Re: Missed Value Bet

Grunching ... These hands are always tricky and I'm almost always unclear if I'm playing them right. There are a lot of variables here, and reads would help tremendously.

If CO is not a complete donkey, he will figure you don't have the straight given your action, which makes a strong argument for leading out, and then folding to a raise. But if CO is tricky, he might try to bluff raise you here. Checking might be a good idea if you can induce CO to bluff at the pot, which is likely with the river scare card. Again, reads would help.

In all, I think the CO won't fold for one bet, you would probably call one bet to catch a bluff, and you can safely fold to a raise. Bet the river.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Missed Value Bet

Yes I think you should value bet this river, as there are plenty of weaker hands which could call you.

I cant see any other A hand that would have given you just top pair, that you might have raised with preflop from SB.

However, I still think that I would be inclined to value bet this board with top pair HU against a loose opponent.
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