River: Check or bet.

Spaderess · #1 07-16-2005, 02:33 PM

Do you check or bet this river after BB checks?

BB had only been at the table for 5 hands and played one.

And yes, I believe hero made a mistake to not open-raise pre-flop.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero calls, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero??

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Dieter01 · #2 07-16-2005, 02:37 PM

I would raise this turn. Even with a worse pair there is a good chance he will call down HU, and I think there is a pretty good chance you are ahead.

The way it played out, bet the river for value.

istewart · #3 07-16-2005, 02:40 PM

Tough. I would check. It certainly seemed like you were behind on the flop, unless he had QT which just pulled ahead (or T8 which likewise did).

Isura · #4 07-16-2005, 02:42 PM

Raise preflop. Open limping with KJo in mp is asking for trouble. River is close, but I think I'd bet here. The Q didn't help villain unless he is going for a weird check/raise, and you'll get called down by a weaker J or a smaller pair often enough. Fold to a check/raise though.

AASooted · #5 07-16-2005, 02:44 PM

Beginner replying blind:

He got to see the flop for free, so he could literally have anything. He liked the flop enough to 3-bet, and he liked the turn. I'd probably check thinking he was trying to check-raise me. That 3-bet has me thinking about an ugly two pair.

Spaderess · #6 07-16-2005, 02:46 PM

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I would raise this turn. Even with a worse pair there is a good chance he will call down HU, and I think there is a pretty good chance you are ahead.

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Really?? Another 3-bet would suck. Would you call or fold to a 3-bet?

silkyslim · #7 07-16-2005, 02:47 PM

Raise pf. It looks to me like hero has a pair of jacks and is scared of the Q, or the possible str8. I think you have a better kicker or would have raised pf. This argument is putting villian on an extremely narrow range of hands though. He might be getting tricky with something or be on a busted draw (i can't see which one that the 9 doesnt complete)? If he is on a draw, he will fold to a bet, if he is tricky, he'll raise, which is pretty bad for us. if he has a J he will pay off. A read would be tremendous.... I'd bet since the J is most likely.

topspin · #8 07-16-2005, 02:50 PM

I'd bet. Pretty easy fold if you're raised.

Dieter01 · #9 07-16-2005, 02:52 PM

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I would raise this turn. Even with a worse pair there is a good chance he will call down HU, and I think there is a pretty good chance you are ahead.

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Really?? Another 3-bet would suck. Would you call or fold to a 3-bet?

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Maybe I am too aggressive heads up... I just don't give his flop 3-bet as much value when there are only two people left. It instantly gets more aggressive the minute that happens. Especially when it happens this early.

If you do get 3-bet I definitely think you are behind, but then you have to call. Fold the next street if you don't improve.

aK13 · #10 07-16-2005, 03:42 PM

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I'd bet. Pretty easy fold if you're raised.

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Check, because I don't agree with this.