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a quick one
Live 8-16, 9 handed.
SB is a pretty good player, but isn't as good as he thinks he is. He tends to be overagressive post-flop and a little too loose PF. BB and button are mostly unknown but seem pretty typical. Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, button calls, SB calls, BB checks. Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, button folds, SB calls, BB calls Turn: (3.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks Turn: (3.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero... |
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Re: a quick one
i think i bet the turn. you got 2 overs and a flush draw. maybe i'm wrong. but you almost gotta fold that river with BB calling there.
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Re: a quick one
On the river, I think combining the pot size with the fact that your overcalling makes this a pretty easy fold.
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Re: a quick one
Ugh...fold. Calling is hopeless and your odds suck.
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thanks for the input. I did, in fact, fold.
And of course SB says "I got nothing" and BB takes it down with a J-high diamond flush. In retrospect, I could come up with a few ways to justify a call. In particular, SB was agressive enough that he probably would have 3-bet the flop if he had a real piece of this board (although I dunno what he was cold-calling with), and he was definately agressive enough to take a shot at it on the river with virtually anything. BB might have raised if he had a boat, since he should know that I don't have one and likely wouldn't overcall (and lots of SS think that any boat is a huge hand, despite the board). So, BB's call here could easily have been A-high. But this is results-oriented thinking for sure. Everything has to be just right to call here, and getting 5:1 probably just isn't enough. |
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Re: a quick one
I think the river decision is a lot closer than everyone else is letting on. It's entirely possible that either
SB is bluffing and BB has a flush SB and BB both have smaller flushes (yeah this one is kind of out there but it will happen some % of the time) SB is bluffing and BB thinks he is bluffing and is calling with a hand like AK SB has a straight and BB is calling with a hand like AK SB and BB both have straights SB is betting AK for value and BB has a straight All these possibilities are fairly remote, but there are a lot of them and they add up. If he has a tendency to never slowplay (ala 2p2) then I believe a fold is probably correct. |
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Re: a quick one
For what it's worth, I think this is a good fold. Yes there's some chance that SB was bluffing, BB has a smaller flush etc. but not enough to justify a call, given the size of the pot.
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