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Old 07-15-2005, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: I\'m pulling for Andy Black - a true sportsman

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I hope he loses 9th, guy looks like a total tool.

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Excellent criteria.
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: I\'m pulling for Andy Black - a true sportsman

I really don't get how that's such a great act. Doesn't that screw the other players? More important the shorter stacks. Don't they all get screwed by missing hands?
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:25 PM
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I really don't get how that's such a great act. Doesn't that screw the other players? More important the shorter stacks. Don't they all get screwed by missing hands?

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Old 07-15-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: I\'m pulling for Andy Black - a true sportsman

I gotta respect that too. I've kinda got an over developed sense of fair play though.

Especially when you learn that it's ESPN messing with the schedule and changing around breaks.
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: I\'m pulling for Andy Black - a true sportsman

Based on what I've read about him - he's the one I'll be pulling for - someone had posted a Cardplayer article on him about how Stu Unger took him out in 1997 - he was 14th in that tournament. He also made a bold play last night which took him out of the chip lead.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: I\'m pulling for Andy Black - a true sportsman

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I really don't get how that's such a great act. Doesn't that screw the other players? More important the shorter stacks. Don't they all get screwed by missing hands?

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I think you're on the right track but have the specifics ass backwards. Typically smaller stacks are the ones with an incentive to stall and hope that people bust out elsewhere so they can creep up in the money. Big stacks who are still in strong contention to win want to be applying the pressure and accumulating many chips here so that they aren't falling behind big stacks at other tables. So it does screw other people at the table. Regardless, I think his heart was in the right place, and that's what people are admiring.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: I\'m pulling for Andy Black - a true sportsman

Personally, he may be as appealing as Daniel Negreanu, but the cynic in me suggests that he is ignoring a poker basic:

It's a Zero-Sum game.

Will he overcome this violation?
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: I\'m pulling for Andy Black - a true sportsman

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It's a Zero-Sum game.

Will he overcome this violation?

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You're forgetting the role of karma! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: I\'m pulling for Andy Black - a true sportsman

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It's a Zero-Sum game.

Will he overcome this violation?

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You're forgetting the role of karma! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Karma's not the dealer- Karma's the cocktail waitress.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: I\'m pulling for Andy Black - a true sportsman

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He also made a bold play last night which took him out of the chip lead.

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I thought that 'bold' play was kind of dumb. I believe preflop there was a raise, a cold caller, Black cold calls with KJo, a blind reraises, original raiser mucks, cold caller mucks and Black goes all in. He has about 12mil at the time and the blind has 4 mil. The first 2 raises had made it less than 1 mil total. (I'm goihg from memory here so correct me with exact numbers if you like)

Anyhow Black has to be hoping the reraiser was on a complete bluff as if Black himself had a huge hand he would have raised rather than coldcalled in the first place. Obviously the reraiser thus puts Black on less than a premium hand and acts accordingly. He calls. End of chip lead.

I still like what I've read and seen of Black though. Just didn't care for his play in this particular hand.
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