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8877 middle set hand
My most interesting hand of the night - what's your play?
Villain is a solid tight-aggressive player $100 PL Omaha Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 1: Villain ( $95.30 ) Seat 2: Hero ( $100.85 ) Dealt to Hero [ 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] UTG calls [$1], 3 folds, Villain calls [$1], Hero raises [$5.50], Blinds fold, UTG folds, Villain calls [$4.50]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] Vilain checks, Hero bets [$12.85], Villain raises [$51.40]. Hero ??? |
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Re: 8877 middle set hand
In a limped pot you may be able to get away from it.
Since you raised preflop I would reraise. Your opponent is likely putting you on aaxx. The villian could have an open str8, flush draw, two pair, bottom set or even aaxx himself. I reraise and gladly pay off jjj |
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Re: 8877 middle set hand
It's all in or fold on the flop. You're a favorite (not necessarily a big one) against anything but JJ. You're a small favorite over even the biggest draw (something like 79TQ with two diamonds). I'd be inclined to get it all in on the flop HU. Even a tight aggressive player will have a wide range of hands that he could be reraising with here.
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Re: 8877 middle set hand
Illustration of a check raise w a pretty weak hand...but it was raised preflop so i thought i was in the lead w bottom 2. It would obviously have been a huge mistake for villian to fold middle set.
***** Hand History for Game 2363245638 ***** $2000 PL Omaha Table Table 51978 (Real Money) Seat 10 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 10: villian ( $6123 ) Seat 7: ACEFERRET ( $1920 ) sb posts small blind [$10]. bb posts big blind [$20]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to ACEFERRET [ 4s 3d 6s 2d ] markvr folds. dbw99 folds. rautu folds. ACEFERRET calls [$20]. villian raises [$90]. ACEFERRET calls [$70]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 3h, 6c ] ACEFERRET checks. villian bets [$207]. ACEFERRET raises [$828]. mahmouda folds. ACEFERRET does not show cards. ACEFERRET wins $1242 |
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Re: 8877 middle set hand
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Illustration of a check raise w a pretty weak hand...but it was raised preflop so i thought i was in the lead w bottom 2. It would obviously have been a huge mistake for villian to fold middle set. ***** Hand History for Game 2363245638 ***** $2000 PL Omaha Table Table 51978 (Real Money) Seat 10 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 10: villian ( $6123 ) Seat 7: ACEFERRET ( $1920 ) sb posts small blind [$10]. bb posts big blind [$20]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to ACEFERRET [ 4s 3d 6s 2d ] markvr folds. dbw99 folds. rautu folds. ACEFERRET calls [$20]. villian raises [$90]. ACEFERRET calls [$70]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 3h, 6c ] ACEFERRET checks. villian bets [$207]. ACEFERRET raises [$828]. mahmouda folds. ACEFERRET does not show cards. ACEFERRET wins $1242 [/ QUOTE ]why would you play this horrpible hand PF? are you calling off the rest of money on flop (yes id assume)?? |
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Re: 8877 middle set hand
2346 double suited against one person that I know only raises w aaxx is not the worst of plays. I know he his potting it on flop no matter what hits so I'm getting three to one on my money.
I was also in the cutoff and figured I could pick up the pot on the flop when it is checked to me. But that all changed when I was faced with a new decision to call 70 to possibly make 2k. The point of the post was not to advocate playing a semi weak hand. The point was that I could never fold second set as a preflop raiser to a check raise. |
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Re: 8877 middle set hand
cardplayer has it preflop at 45 - 55
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Re: 8877 middle set hand
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In a limped pot you may be able to get away from it. Since you raised preflop I would reraise. Your opponent is likely putting you on aaxx. The villian could have an open str8, flush draw, two pair, bottom set or even aaxx himself. I reraise and gladly pay off jjj [/ QUOTE ] This is correct unless you are dealing with a total rock who always checks top set to the preflop raiser. With this big of a drawing board a good player as well as a bad one is going to try to push someone off of AA by a checkraise with a draw. Merely calling rather than reraising is also an option to see if a draw completes on the turn and gauge villain's reaction to it before committing the other half of your stack. |
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Re: 8877 middle set hand
Hey, glad to see you guys know what you are talking about!
$100 PL Omaha Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 1: Villain ( $95.30 ) Seat 2: Hero ( $100.85 ) Dealt to Hero [ 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] UTG calls [$1], 3 folds, Villain calls [$1], Hero raises [$5.50], Blinds fold, UTG folds, Villain calls [$4.50]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] Vilain checks, Hero bets [$12.85], Villain raises [$51.40]. Hero raises [$77.10]. Villain calls all-In. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ] ** Dealing River ** [ A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] Hero shows [ 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] three of a kind, eights. Villain doesn't show [ K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] a pair of kings. Hero wins $0.15 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, eights. Hero wins $190.10 from the main pot with three of a kind, eights. Not a horrible play by villain as he had 10-outs, but still a 35% dog. He pot-committed himself by raising me and was forced to call my reraise. |
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Re: 8877 middle set hand
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This is correct unless you are dealing with a total rock who always checks top set to the preflop raiser. [/ QUOTE ] Why does always checking top-set to the preflop raiser make someone a total rock? Wouldn't this be a pretty standard move, particularly on-line where the stacks aren't so deep? |
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