ok curtains i know you're board, so critique

[durron597]

Hi johnnybeef-

I'm not curtains, but I just made a post on the same subject a few days ago.

AQo in the BB in a limped pot

Some good responses in there.

[tigerite]

What a combination of usernames that would be, johnny beef curtains. Sorry, off topic there, but couldn't resist it.

[curtains]

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From other positions do you ever limp with AK or is that just from the blinds?

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I almost never open limp with AK. I often flat call raises, even min raises, early in the tournament.

[Geordie Ramone]

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What a combination of usernames that would be, johnny beef curtains. Sorry, off topic there, but couldn't resist it.

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Thats my favourite post ever

[skipperbob]

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]The next time your so board, why donut you bitchslap yourownshelf with a big bored [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[AliasMrJones]

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I almost never open limp with AK. I often flat call raises, even min raises, early in the tournament.

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[Irieguy]

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Well personally I would never in my wildest dreams raise to 75 from the BB with AQo. I have never done this in a situation like this since I started 8 tabling. Note that I check AKo here too most of the time. This is just my personal preference and I don't claim that it's the best way to play.

On the flop I'd check and fold of course.

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Much of the value of AK and AQ comes from one's skill in extracting money from weaker aces. Everybody knows how much monkeys like weak aces.

But there seems to be one consistent theme regarding the standard bad play of a weak ace: people seem to like limping with them.

You can pretty much group common limping hands into 3 categories:

1. Weak aces
2. Pairs
3. Any other 2 cards

If somebody is limping against your AK/AQ, you are not going to get much $$ from them post flop if an ace comes if they have a category #2 or #3 hand. If they have an ace, they will usually pay you off no matter what.

I think that these considerations give considerable credence to the idea of raising with AK/AQ from the blinds in an un-raised pot. That doesn't mean that I always do it... because I often won't. But it surprises me that Curtains wouldn't even dream of it.

Having said all that, most people suck from the blinds and suck at playing AK/AQ... so Curtains' line is probably really good advice. I like to keep pots small whenever possible, but keeping it meaningless with a big ace from the blinds makes it even harder to fall into a horrible mistake.

Irieguy

[mlagoo]

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]The next time your so board, why donut you bitchslap yourownshelf with a big bored [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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i'll admit it. i laughed.

[curtains]

I wouldn't dream of it because I never do it. I prefaced it by saying that I don't claim it's universally correct to just check, it just meshes well with my style.

In my last 2500 sit and go's I don't remember the last time I raised many limpers in the 10-15 round with AQo from the blind, unless of course I'm short stacked with like 200-300 chips in which case I'd move allin.