WSOP Day 4: "Official" News, Results, and Discussion - Page 69

ziggy_m · #**681** 07-13-2005, 05:21 AM

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only problem i see with matusow winning is his recent involvement with the law. (cocaine possession or whatever)

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Then again, it could result in a bunch of cokehead tilters with weekly coke cash who forget how much they lose!

TheCroShow · #**682** 07-13-2005, 05:24 AM

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only problem i see with matusow winning is his recent involvement with the law. (cocaine possession or whatever)
if he wins, that will be played up, and gambling may once again be seen as a degenerative activity.

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it would take a heck of a lot more to stop this poker train/boom/explosion. sure buddy had a few problems in the past, but he certainly deserves an ME win. i'd like to see tiffany final table and either ivey or matusow winning the ME.

back on topic...nobody will ever forget the stories of online qualifiers winning back to back. there will be "pipe dreams" as knish would call em and it's clear matusow is not a degenerate gambler. sure he is a gambler, but he cannot make it as far as he has made it in his career by playing like a donk

ziggy_m · #**683** 07-13-2005, 05:30 AM

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sure he is a gambler, but he cannot make it as far as he has made it in his career by playing like a donk

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How many times did Stu Ungar go broke?

Ouch! No really, The Mouth is no Stu, but there are some similarities if you look for them.

p.s. this is not a contradiction of anybody... just an observation

TheCroShow · #**684** 07-13-2005, 05:39 AM

aye, but in the public eye it's not really talked about..the problems stu ungar had with cheating, drugs, alcohol, etc...you hear about how awesome sauce he was and arguably the best NL player ever to live.

i highly doubt ESPN is going to get into the problems matusow has had in the past. maybe an ABC special will reveal these troubles, but i highly doubt the poker explosion will die down because a former drug addict won the world series of poker.

look at professional sports, steroid use is basically praised and glorified..look boys and girls, juice up and SMASH homerun records! a few ripples were caused, but the ppl still love the game

Mano · #**685** 07-13-2005, 05:46 AM

1 Tim Phan $ 3,244,000
2 Mike Matusow $ 2,561,000
3 Farzad Bonyadi $ 2,402,000
4 Steve Dannenmann $ 2,143,000
5 Phil Ivey $ 2,027,000
6 Tex Barch $ 2,025,000
7 Tiffany Williamson $ 1,992,000
8 Johnny Howard $ 1,806,000
9 Scott Lazar $ 1,629,000
10 Tuan 'Tommy' Vu $ 1,571,000
11 Bart Rice $ 1,414,000
12 Raymi Sanchesz Thorn $ 1,288,000
13 Lee Watkinson $ 1,221,000
14 Tom Sartori $ 1,208,000
15 Daniel Bergsdorf $ 1,144,000
16 Brad Kondracki $ 1,136,000
17 Minh Ly $ 1,102,000
18 Terry Burt $ 1,080,000
19 Steve Marx $ 1,042,000
20 Per Hildebrand $ 1,017,000
21 Michael Kessler $ 986,000
22 Shahram 'Shawn' Sheikhan $ 983,000
23 Patrick Hayden $ 972,000
24 Dustin Woolf $ 968,000
25 John Juanda $ 841,000
26 Joseph Hachem $ 814,000
27 Nick Gibson $ 811,000
28 John McGrane $ 780,880
29 Aaron Kanter $ 778,000
30 Ayhan Alsancak $ 775,000
31 Greg 'Fossilman' Raymer $ 766,000
32 Radu Butan $ 762,000
33 Bing Wang $ 739,000
34 Oskar Silow $ 720,000
35 Adam Friedman $ 719,000
36 James Butt $ 716,000
37 Russell 'The Muscle' Salzer $ 710,000
38 Bryant King $ 702,000
39 Franklin Caldwell $ 690,000
40 Yakov Hirsch $ 658,000
41 Joe Connor $ 641,000
42 Mark Forrester $ 628,000
43 Karlo Lopez $ 607,000
44 Joe Stillman $ 584,000
45 Kevin Kaikko $ 571,000
46 Tony Abesamis $ 513,000
47 Kenna James $ 510,000
48 Hung La $ 505,000
49 David Richardson $ 501,000
50 Roland Israelashvici $ 469,000
51 Will O'Brien $ 423,000
52 Bernard Lee $ 379,000
53 Andrew Black $ 371,000
54 Conor Tate $ 368,000
55 Derek Dix $ 202,000
56 Rod Pardey Jr. $ 187,000
57 Larry Prugh $ 166,000
58 Jarl Lindholt Jorgensen $ 101,000

Ond · #**686** 07-13-2005, 05:46 AM

Matusow is arguably a very very good player, but his emotions tend to let him down. If he can add some zen to his game, he would be top dog.

He is great TV of course, and thats good for poker. Cocaine, hookers, jailtime, strippers, shouting and cursing is great for ratings.

Its like Poker Sopranos.

Mano · #**687** 07-13-2005, 05:55 AM

It looks like Neverwin has made quite a comeback.

ziggy_m · #**688** 07-13-2005, 05:57 AM

I sincerely hope he doesn't "Blow up", or that if he does, it's at the final table with a truly balls bluff.

Reminds me of myself he does [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

ziggy_m · #**689** 07-13-2005, 05:59 AM

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It looks like Neverwin has made quite a comeback.

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Please excuse me for so many "newb" posts in a row, but, who is Neverwin, again?

Yeti · #**690** 07-13-2005, 06:03 AM

Dustin Wolff.