4 flush with top pair on river

slik · #1 07-12-2005, 03:06 AM

villain is 41% VPIP. AF 2.0. Went to showdown 41% won at showdown 36% over 54 hands. is this a value bet on the river or check down?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 6 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ?.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Knoler · #2 07-12-2005, 03:27 AM

Let's say you bet the river. What hands would you expect UTG to call your river bet with that don't beat your pair of Aces?

Regards,
-Brian

slik · #3 07-12-2005, 04:08 AM

any ace or queen probably calls, as also probably any pocket pair.

i have problems playing these 4 flush hands on the turn too. when to call with a weak flush, when to bet with one, and so on.

matt42s · #4 07-12-2005, 07:11 AM

looks like a clarkmeister, bet the river.
search +clarkmeister +flush

edit: just noticed you're not OOP, so its not standard but I would still do it, and fold to a raise without a good read.

Lurkmaster Flex · #5 07-12-2005, 07:30 AM

I check this through everytime. It would be closer if the board wasn't paired.

hicherbie · #6 07-12-2005, 09:25 AM

against this villian id say bet. i think he should show a losing hand here most of the time. a seven would have popped you again at some point during this hand. its close though.

ArturiusX · #7 07-12-2005, 09:47 AM

This isn't clerkmeister.

First of all, I hate the flop raise. Its either going to slow him down when we're in front (bad), and make it more difficult for us to set a trap. Or he could have a 7 in which case we're nearly drawing dead. Getting 3-bet sucks. We'd also like SB to come along.

Call the flop, raise the turn because he'd certainly bet into you, and on the 4 flush river I check behind. With how the action went, no hands you beat will call enough of the time to warrant risking a check-raise.