Find a river value bet? 10/20 9max

SmileyEH · #1 07-11-2005, 01:49 PM

Villian in this hand is tight. Only had a few hands on him, but my guess would be a tight weak player.

Converter wouldnt work so I'll write it up.

Villian limps UTG, folds to me in the CO and I raise with 77. Blinds get out of the way and villian calls. Flop is T85 two spades (I have the 7s). Action goes check/bet/call. Turn is 4h check/bet/call. River is the 3d - UTG checks. Bet this one for value?

-SmileyEH

dealer_toe · #2 07-11-2005, 01:55 PM

I wouldn't bet it. The only had that you beat, and has at all a tiny shot of him calling you with is 66 and 5x most likely A5s if there is any chance he has a 5. Any busted draw he's folding, and and big ace that would be worth calling you on the river w/ A high, he would have raised PF.

I usually check through these rivers.

Fat Nicky · #3 07-11-2005, 01:55 PM

I usually bet in these spots and hope to get a call from something like A5 or 66. You may get called by an 8 or a weak 10, but the right thing to do is to value bet these weak tight players to death.

Drjekel · #4 07-11-2005, 01:57 PM

I'd say bet this one out - I'd say it's likely he's holding two over cards.

dealer_toe · #5 07-11-2005, 02:02 PM

And if he holds two over cards, is he going to call your bet? It seems to me this is a pretty marginal spot of only getting called by a better hand.

SmileyEH · #6 07-11-2005, 02:04 PM

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And if he holds two over cards, is he going to call your bet? It seems to me this is a pretty marginal spot of only getting called by a better hand.

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There are worse hands he will call with, but whether that frequency is higher than the times he calls with a better hand is definitely up for debate.

-SmileyEH

sy_or_bust · #7 07-11-2005, 02:40 PM

Will he play AT/KT this way? 99? A8?

I see tons of combinations that beat you and only a few that will often call and lose. Add in the weak-tight read, and it is a clear check. Villain would need to have hands like AJ/44 in his calling range to make this bet profitable.

DMBFan23 · #8 07-11-2005, 02:47 PM

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but the right thing to do is to value bet these weak tight players to death.

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Hey Nicky,

I don't get it

Fat Nicky · #9 07-11-2005, 02:52 PM

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but the right thing to do is to value bet these weak tight players to death.

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Hey Nicky,

I don't get it

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I don't get what I wrote either actually...after reading it again, I realize it doesn't make much sense. I thought I read somewhere in the OP that the villain was passive as well, I must be seeing things.

Just to correct myself, a weak-tight player will most likely be calling down with a better hand than 7s or a draw (which he will not call a bet at the river). Checking seems like the right play.