Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Mid-, High-Stakes Pot- and No-Limit Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-09-2005, 11:34 AM
Magician Magician is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 421
Default Misplayed AA $10/$20 NLHE - help

PokerStars Game #2064957947: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2005/07/09 - 11:08:26 (ET)
Table 'Eunike' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: scones2222 ($504.45 in chips)
Seat 3: rubyg1 ($1968 in chips)
Seat 5: khan3989 ($1950 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($2276 in chips)
Seat 7: bonvivant ($1368.50 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $10
bonvivant: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac Ah]
scones2222: folds
rubyg1: raises $60 to $80
khan3989: folds
Hero: raises $170 to $250
bonvivant: folds
rubyg1: calls $170
*** FLOP *** [5c 4s Td]
Hero: checks
rubyg1: bets $380
Hero: calls $380
*** TURN *** [5c 4s Td] [9d]
Hero: checks
rubyg1: bets $720

Commentary: Yikes, this is raise or fold time. Decide to just call, but last $620 goes in on the end anyway.

Hero: calls $720
*** RIVER *** [5c 4s Td 9d] [8s]

Hero: bets $618

rubyg1 is disconnected
rubyg1 is connected
rubyg1: calls $618 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Ac Ah] (a pair of Aces)
rubyg1: shows [9h 9s] (three of a kind, Nines)
rubyg1 collected $3954 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3956 | Rake $2
Board [5c 4s Td 9d 8s]
Seat 1: scones2222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: rubyg1 showed [9h 9s] and won ($3954) with three of a kind, Nines


Commentary: I think I should gun it out on the flop here with Aces, so that if I get flat called or raised I get more information. By checking and calling, I build a big pot while still not knowing where I am in the hand, which is what leads to losing 100 big blinds.

When the $380 goes in on the flop I am way ahead, but for all I know in other cases the enemy already has 55, 44 or TT by the flop, and it is hard to pass when he fires in another $720 on the fourth card.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-09-2005, 11:43 AM
fsuplayer fsuplayer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 187
Default Re: Misplayed AA $10/$20 NLHE - help

cr the turn all in.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-09-2005, 12:01 PM
grass grass is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 232
Default Re: Misplayed AA $10/$20 NLHE - help

why you checking so much? you think ace-k is dumb enough to throw money at you or you waiting for someone to hit a set?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-09-2005, 12:14 PM
Magician Magician is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 421
Default Re: Misplayed AA $10/$20 NLHE - help

Hi,

I generally want to keep the pot small here, if I bet, pot gets bigger and a big bluff becomes more likely.

Maybe the mistake was actually mostly on the turn, I had a *bad* feeling when he bet $720 and I should have passed there.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-09-2005, 12:44 PM
grass grass is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 232
Default Re: Misplayed AA $10/$20 NLHE - help

if you were gona small ball your aces, then you would've goin broke no matter what.

folding aces on a board of 4-5-10-9 to 1 bet is just crazy talk.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-09-2005, 12:52 PM
ggbman ggbman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 605
Default Re: Misplayed AA $10/$20 NLHE - help

You definitly need to raise this flop IMO.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-09-2005, 02:03 PM
MoDOH MoDOH is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 412
Default Re: Misplayed AA $10/$20 NLHE - help

Since you decided to check this flop you need to C-R the pot. Just calling is just plain awful. Your AA is best here way more than itīs behind to a set. raise and take the pot down right now. If called you push the turn no matter what...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-09-2005, 02:08 PM
iceman5 iceman5 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 38
Default Re: Misplayed AA $10/$20 NLHE - help

[ QUOTE ]
Hi,

I generally want to keep the pot small here, if I bet, pot gets bigger and a big bluff becomes more likely.

Maybe the mistake was actually mostly on the turn, I had a *bad* feeling when he bet $720 and I should have passed there.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why in gods name do you want to keep the pot small? Villian raise first and you reraised him. he either has nothing (AK/AQ type hand) or has a smaller pair than yours.

This is a hand you want to play for you stack with. Bet the flop or check raise it and if you check raise...do it big enough to commit yourself and more importantly, commit him.

I like the title of the thread.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-09-2005, 02:48 PM
CamelZoo CamelZoo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: desert
Posts: 36
Default Re: Misplayed AA $10/$20 NLHE - help

When the $380 goes in on the flop I am way ahead, but for all I know in other cases the ENEMY already has 55, 44 or TT by the flop, and it is hard to pass when he fires in another $720 on the fourth card.


***

the check-call on the flop is ok, but then checkraise the turn bc your money is going to get in, at least try to get it in while youre ahead in most cases. losing the hand sucks, i hate getting stacked by the enemy.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-09-2005, 04:07 PM
spoohunter spoohunter is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 543
Default Re: Misplayed AA $10/$20 NLHE - help

I don't understand check raising or check calling the flop. This shows way too much strength.

Just lead, hope he has JJ+, raises you, and you stack him.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.