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#11
07-08-2005, 04:06 PM
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Re: NL100 Hand: Fold bottom set here?
The first thing mentioned in the post is how our villian is extremely passive.... given his preflop raise, turn checkraise, and then big bet on the river, I would start to get worried that he has a set... a passive player does not turn checkraise and bet out big on the river with AK... the only holding that he could have that we beat, is AA, but I would have thought that he would bet it on the flop.... he is loose, but extremely passive, and yet in this hand, he is going crazy with the betting. This is exactly the type of player that you can safely fold a set too....
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#12
07-08-2005, 04:06 PM
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Re: NL100 Hand: Fold bottom set here?
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AA would likely play this the same way - I think you have to get stacked here [/ QUOTE ] i disagree completely. UTG is very likely to bet the flop with AA. i would have gotten stacked here because i would have been betting/raising on every street. once you get to the river on this hand, it's a question of how often he calls a river raise with a hand that you beat. on the river i'm putting him on AK, KQ, JJ. it doesn't look much like a bluff. i don't think a raise is terrible, just depends on how loose you think he is.
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#13
07-08-2005, 04:08 PM
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Re: NL100 Hand: Fold bottom set here?
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The first thing mentioned in the post is how our villian is extremely passive.... given his preflop raise, turn checkraise, and then big bet on the river, I would start to get worried that he has a set... a passive player does not turn checkraise and bet out big on the river with AK... the only holding that he could have that we beat, is AA, but I would have thought that he would bet it on the flop.... he is loose, but extremely passive, and yet in this hand, he is going crazy with the betting. This is exactly the type of player that you can safely fold a set too.... [/ QUOTE ] postflop aggression 2 does not mean extremely passive player. i'll say it again, folding the river is out of the question.
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#17
07-08-2005, 04:19 PM
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Re: NL100 Hand: Fold bottom set here?
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you don't think you are good on the end even 1/3 of the time? I don't think I can fold here but I don't like reraising either. [/ QUOTE ] vpip 56% is evidence of fishiness, i think a raise can be right in this situation if you've seen past megafishiness postflop.
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#18
07-08-2005, 04:29 PM
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Re: NL100 Hand: Fold bottom set here?
It is one thing to see many flops, it is another thing to go crazy with the betting.... All I know is this individual is representing lots of strength through the whole hand. Personally, I would probably lay down my hand, however, I also would have reraised the turn.... assuming I didn't think he was so passive. I could see a call being correct, but I am not raising this unless this guy is a complete lag.
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#20
07-08-2005, 04:36 PM
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Re: NL100 Hand: Fold bottom set here?
I would tend to agree with that... what kind of starting hands do you put on this player when he raises in early position? 56% is very high, but 4% is pretty low.... I would have to treat his raises with respect.... When he doesn't fire out on the flop, I am thinking he probably missed with his AK/AQ or he is trying something funny with QQ,KK and AA, but when he checkraises on the turn, one has to think he actually has a strong hand.... he could have hit his AK, or maybe he comes alive with his AA.... but there are too many red flags going off here.... that is just my opinion given the action of the hand, and his stats! Personally, I don't keep my own stats, but I would think that my Post Flop raising would be much higher....
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