Umm....WTF.

baronzeus · #1 07-08-2005, 02:10 PM

All fishy. Bet this river for folds?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Button checks.

River: (7 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB

JrJordan · #2 07-08-2005, 02:12 PM

Hell, I don't think I even bet this flop. Someone is going to call the flop over 90% of the time, and you're stuck check/folding from there unless you hit your tainted 2 outer.

Now post the results so I can see that you won [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

baronzeus · #3 07-08-2005, 02:15 PM

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Hell, I don't think I even bet this flop. Someone is going to call the flop over 90% of the time, and you're stuck check/folding from there unless you hit your tainted 2 outer.

Now post the results so I can see that you won [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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I agree, betting this flop was retarded

ckessel · #4 07-08-2005, 02:25 PM

I think betting the river is -EV. I don't think you'll fold anyone that beats you despite the scary board, simply because the passiveness on the turn would trigger most players to call with any pair at that point as they'd think "maybe my pair of queens is good".

Buck_65 · #5 07-08-2005, 02:27 PM

Check/reevaluate flop (might be able to peel one off). Check/fold turn. Check/fold river. Nice hand.

BabyJesus · #6 07-08-2005, 02:28 PM

I don't like raising preflop out of the SB. I would rather just call, if flop is favorable maybe go for check raise to thin out the field. You are going to be against at least 3 other opponents with the worst position. You're just building a pot with a hand that doesn't do very well in bad position vs 3-4 opponents. If you raise preflop then lead on the flop opponents are getting decent odds to try and draw out on you.

baronzeus · #7 07-08-2005, 02:33 PM

I think the fact that it's 5 way and the fact that you have more than 20% equity (by far IMO) you have to raise.

afk · #8 07-08-2005, 02:41 PM

I think betting the flop stinks pretty bad. I would check, planning to fold.

baronzeus · #9 07-08-2005, 02:44 PM

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I think betting the flop stinks pretty bad. I would check, planning to fold.

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Thanks, 4 other people have said that, and I have already agreed. Next?

PokerNoob · #10 07-08-2005, 02:50 PM

Inevitably, one of the limpers has Ace crappy kicker and will call but not bet, fearing outkickage. They call the flop, even though they "know" somebody has a better ace because they want to checkraise when they turn or river their two pair. The good news is that they will pay to see when you're ahead.