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Old 07-08-2005, 03:49 AM
onthebutton onthebutton is offline
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Default So what\'s a bad downturn?

I just want to ask the opinion of what a bad cold streak is before I start to worry. I had a -50BB night tonight at the end of a rough week. Opinions?
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: So what\'s a bad downturn?

Shrug it off and chalk it up to variance. I just finished a -170BB downswing. Didn't even phase me. My first downswing was devastating, but I've since learned to deal with it.

It's not to say that it isn't frustrating, because it is. Comes with the territory.
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: So what\'s a bad downturn?

-200 is not uncommon.
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Old 07-08-2005, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: So what\'s a bad downturn?

100 BB over 1,000 hands. 50 BB is a bad hour for some.
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: So what\'s a bad downturn?

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100 BB over 1,000 hands. 50 BB is a bad hour for some.

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100 is a bad hour/couple hundred hands for me.
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: So what\'s a bad downturn?

i remember when 50BB was a bad cold spell...ah, the ignorance of youth.

don't worry about it. [censored] happens. don't be results oriented. blah blah blah. if you think you might be tilting, post some hands.

one of these sessions you'll flop a raggedy straight when someone slowplays AA and forget all about your downswing as you cap the river.
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: So what\'s a bad downturn?

OK...here are a couple that stick out from tonight.

Paradise Poker 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 6d Td (straight, queen high).
Hero has Kh Kc (two pair, kings and eights).
Outcome: SB wins 7.50 BB. </font>


Any advice? Here's another:

Paradise Poker 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: (13.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 8s Jc (full house, eights full of tens).
Hero has As Ah (two pair, aces and tens).
SB has 5c Qc (two pair, queens and tens).
Outcome: UTG wins 13.50 BB. </font>

Been happening over and over.


Paradise Poker 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (3 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Kh Kd (two pair, kings and twos).
Button has Jd Th (two pair, jacks and twos).
SB has 8c 2c (full house, twos full of eights).
Outcome: SB wins 10.50 BB. </font>
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: So what\'s a bad downturn?

I had a -60BB downswing tonight at the end of a good run. This is normal, don't worry about it. If you sometimes feel anger at the bad beats, that's normal too. Realize that your short term results (yes, even when you win), are largely a result of luck. Even the fishies have their winning nights.
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: So what\'s a bad downturn?

Why did you slowplay the flop in the third hand?
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: So what\'s a bad downturn?

Good question. I don't know what I was thinking, honestly.

Edit: The only thing I can think of is that I smoothcalled, hoping to keep the guy behind me in, and to get the bettor to bet the turn, so I could raise.
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