"Fold, keep your image tight so you can steal more later"

[MSUcougar]

hmmm well I made <this post> 2 days ago and didnt get near the discussion I was hoping for... guess my name's not well known enough [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[johnnybeef]

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hmmm well I made <this post> less than a week ago and didnt get near the discussion I was hoping for... guess my name's not well known enough [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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then quit feeling sorry for yourself, and get yourself recognized [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[curtains]

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Honestly no one in any sit and go ive ever played has made a comment about how tight I was playing in over 2000 tournaments, with plenty of them being at lower buyins.

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I bet Im a lot tighter than you think!!
I bet it's because you're not as tight as I am. I do things like fold AJo in MP when it's folded to me.

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[Augie]

I've been Pushing away and enjoying it.

One thing I've noticed since the beginning of the summer, IMHO, is that players are worse, in general. I play groups of 4 to 6 SNGs, and almost invariably, when I start the pushfest, I will see people call with ridiculous hands in at least 1 or 2 of them.

Today, I witnessed all kind of crazy calls, especially on the bubble and headsup. Q2o, 87o, J8s, etc. - in one SNG on Stars, I get it heads up, and push with KTs the 1st hand (about equal stacks), and get called by 76s.

I think there are many players out there making F*** You calls. They don't have the odds, they don't have a reason, they just Call and in a weird, sort of sign language way, are saying, F*** You.

I like it.

Augie

[jon462]

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Honestly no one in any sit and go ive ever played has made a comment about how tight I was playing in over 2000 tournaments, with plenty of them being at lower buyins.

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I bet it's because you're not as tight as I am. I do things like fold AJo in MP when it's folded to me.

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thats tight? I thought that was standard, at least levels 1-4... I fold AJo on the cutoff frequently and dont think ive had someone comment on my tightness more than once or twice.

[wdcbooks]

I am willing to step up and bruise my ego to support citanul on this point. I am two different people when it comes to playing Sit and Gos. Most of the time I really want a win so I turn off the TV, fire up three tables and concentrate. When I am playing in that mode I can pick out some tendencies of most of the players at the table and will notice when people step out of line.

On occasion though I play the $10s and $20s while reading a book, looking at porn and watching Law and Order. At those times I think I am fairly representative of the majority of the low level Sit and Go competition. I have a small but consistent ROI (being as I am not a complete moron). What I don't have is any sense of the other players at the table.

Any table image that develops is only at the extremes. If you played no hands, or every hand I would notice. Other than that I am only interested in how I am going to play my hand. I realize this is terrible poker, but I find the mechanical click and fold relaxing. Passing up a +cEV play because a guy like me (when I am playing in that mode) might give you more respect is pointless.

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\in general, your opponents don't pay that much attention

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My opponents at the 11's dont, im tight as hell showing only premium hands before level 4 and immeditely switch gears on bubble, anyone watching me would never call with K8o or A4 but it happens more often than not

[schwza]

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Honestly no one in any sit and go ive ever played has made a comment about how tight I was playing in over 2000 tournaments, with plenty of them being at lower buyins.

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I bet it's because you're not as tight as I am. I do things like fold AJo in MP when it's folded to me.

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is this advisable at the 33 level? i posted this AJ hand earlier and i was pretty skeptical of the people telling me to fold pre-flop.

[citanul]

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Honestly no one in any sit and go ive ever played has made a comment about how tight I was playing in over 2000 tournaments, with plenty of them being at lower buyins.

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I bet it's because you're not as tight as I am. I do things like fold AJo in MP when it's folded to me.

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is this advisable at the 33 level? i posted this AJ hand earlier and i was pretty skeptical of the people telling me to fold pre-flop.

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you're going to get mixed reviews of hand selection for preflop early in the game.

right before i took my break i and adanthar and a couple others were heavilly pushing that people who have post flop skills should be playing more hands, particularly against bad opponents, and in good situations. also that people who lack post flop skills should work on them so they can do the same. the games are beatable using an incredibly tight strategy, but they are possibly *more* beatable if you can add more hands to your mix.

the folding AJo thing is the "book" play, i believe.

citanul

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

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My opponents at the 11's dont, im tight as hell showing only premium hands before level 4 and immeditely switch gears on bubble, anyone watching me would never call with K8o or A4 but it happens more often than not

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I agree. I don't play tight early for my image, I play tight early to save chips and stay out of trouble. I think most people don't pay attention unless your are extremely loose/tight. When you get down to 5 people it is much easier to pick up on opponents tightness and I think everyone does to some degree. The opponents that occassionally point out my tightness to the table are generally stronger, more observant players, that have also established some sort of comeraderie w/ another player at the table, IMO.