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Old 07-06-2005, 09:10 AM
PinkSteel PinkSteel is offline
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Default PP25NL: Dumb push?

Decent semi-bluff? Or dumb aggression?

Very light reads:
UTG+2 was 22/2/1.0 over 54 hands.
MP2 was 75/13/2.0 over just 8 hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">MP2 ($22.4)</font>
MP3 ($25.89)
CO ($28.93)
Button ($17.6)
SB ($32.6)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($25)</font>
UTG ($21.9)
UTG+1 ($37.55)
<font color="#C00000">UTG+2 ($36.15)</font>
MP1 ($18.72)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $2</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $1.75, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $5</font>, MP2 calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24.75 (All-In)</font>

Agreed the minbet is garbage, it's a bad habit I'm trying to break.
I called the first small raise just intending to draw.
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:48 PM
bizaff bizaff is offline
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Default Re: PP25NL: Dumb push?

I'm not liking it. There's not really anything you're ahead of, or that you'll have odds to draw to if you get called by only one caller. If you get called by both villains, most of your outs are probably dead.

pokenum -h 5c 2c - kh kc -- ac 3c as
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing As Ac 3c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5c 2c 374 37.78 613 61.92 3 0.30 0.379
Kc Kh 613 61.92 374 37.78 3 0.30 0.621

pokenum -h 5c 2c - kc qc -- ac 3c as
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing As Ac 3c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5c 2c 296 29.90 685 69.19 9 0.91 0.304
Kc Qc 685 69.19 296 29.90 9 0.91 0.696

pokenum -h 5c 2c - ah ks -- ac 3c as
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing As Ac 3c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5c 2c 335 33.84 655 66.16 0 0.00 0.338
Ks Ah 655 66.16 335 33.84 0 0.00 0.662


Put em together, and it's icky.

pokenum -h 5c 2c - ah ks - kc jc -- ac 3c as
Holdem Hi: 903 enumerated boards containing As Ac 3c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5c 2c 123 13.62 780 86.38 0 0.00 0.136
Ks Ah 594 65.78 309 34.22 0 0.00 0.658
Kc Jc 186 20.60 717 79.40 0 0.00 0.206

On top of that, they each have raised at least once. Run away screaming.
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: PP25NL: Dumb push?

you might get UTG+2 to fold but you won't get MP to fold his ace.
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