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Old 07-06-2005, 10:08 AM
spoohunter spoohunter is offline
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Default Here\'s an interesting decision :

Playing live $1/$2 at the casino. Dealer is quite new does not know many rules. I've only been to the casino a couple times but have already corrected the dealer a few times.

I have AJ, flop comes king high, I had raised preflop, and own the button. Three checks to me, I check, and then first to act says "I haven't checked yet" and goes to bet.

I tell him he has to protect his action, and explain to him that if three or more players act after him, his action is considered dead. I tell the dealer to burn and turn, he does, the turn is an ace, they all check to me, I bet (half pot I think) and take it down.

Half an hour later I talk to the floor, and ask him about the situation. He says they have no such rule. I handed the guy (who would have bet) $15, he says he was only in for $10, and hands me back $5.

What do you think?
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: Here\'s an interesting decision :

i think you are foolish for giving him money.
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: Here\'s an interesting decision :

1. I think giving the cash back was the classy and correct move.

2. I think the absence of a rule that sets up a situation where 3 players can act behind one player and then that one can act is ludicrous. If that floor didn't immediately contact management about getting that rule in place, he's making his job infinitely harder than it has to be. If the players are responsible to protect themselves, it should be easier for EVERYONE: dealers, floor, players, etc.
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: Here\'s an interesting decision :

The rule you are refering to is from the lowball days (in CA anyway) and while I think it would still be a good rule, the floormen I have seen in CA & NV have been very consistant in preserving a persons right to act - as long as the only actions behind are checks and even sometimes bets, but never raises.
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Old 07-06-2005, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: Here\'s an interesting decision :

i agree, very classy move giving money back. The fact that the dealer wasn't aware of the rules makes that money yours however and obviously the guy wasn't too excited about betting since he let this fly without calling a floorman over.
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Old 07-06-2005, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Here\'s an interesting decision :

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The rule you are refering to is from the lowball days (in CA anyway) and while I think it would still be a good rule, the floormen I have seen in CA & NV have been very consistant in preserving a persons right to act - as long as the only actions behind are checks and even sometimes bets, but never raises.

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But wouldn't that mean that an angle-shooter could lay back, see everybody checking, then claim the right to act and bet in hopes of getting everyone to fold (or at least to get more money in the pot in a situation where he thinks he might have the best hand)? That seems like basically giving him a virtual button any time he wants it.

-Mike
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Old 07-06-2005, 01:38 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Default Re: Here\'s an interesting decision :

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Half an hour later I talk to the floor, and ask him about the situation. He says they have no such rule.

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One of tow things is true; either the floor is unfamiliar with his own room's rules or the maangement of this room is unfamiliar with why certain rules and procedures are in place.
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Old 07-06-2005, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Here\'s an interesting decision :

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I tell the dealer to burn and turn, he does, the turn is an ace, they all check to me, I bet (half pot I think) and take it down.

What do you think?

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I think you call the floor right here before anything else.
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Old 07-06-2005, 02:58 PM
Durs522 Durs522 is offline
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Default Re: Here\'s an interesting decision :

I agree it was a class move on your part. If he wanted to bet he should have called the floor to get a ruling, its not your responsibility. Since he didn't I probably wouldn't have given the money to him. Depending on the table and the other player I may have given him the money back, but like I said most likely not.

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Old 07-07-2005, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: Here\'s an interesting decision :

bet the flop
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