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Old 07-06-2005, 08:39 AM
hobbsinholland hobbsinholland is offline
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Default Tipping tourny dealers

Sorry for the dumb question, but do you ever tip dealers in a casino at a tourament?

My guess is that the answer is no, unless maybe you are in the money or final table. I am Playing in my first large buy in tournament at a casnio and don't want to offend anyone.
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Tipping tourny dealers

It's customary to tip 2-3% of your winnings. So if you're not in the money no need to tip. Some tournaments hold a portion of the entry for the dealers so that needs to be taken into consideration.
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Old 07-06-2005, 01:03 PM
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2 thoughts on tipping, both of which are a little off topic.

First: I don't like tipping dealers. They have the absolute easiest job out there except for the fact that it's boring and repedative. I tip people who are in service industries if they deserve it. A dealer is no more deserving than the girl who bags my groceries. She only gets a tip if she does something above and beyond. The cocktail girls on the other hand, that's a different story. Also, tipping a lot eats into your profits and I'm a cheap bastard like that.

Second: The house sometimes takes a crap load out of the money on the table at B&M cardrooms. The rake is 10% in a cash game and there are even single table tourneys that have a 30% fee!!! With the house taking so much money off the table, they can afford to pay dealers properly.

If the dealers don't like getting stiffed, they can go cry about it. The food/beverage industry is the only one that is deserving of mandatory tipping as such people are purposefully paid like $3/hr. since they live on tips.
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Old 07-06-2005, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Tipping tourny dealers

I worked as a waiter for a few months and got paid $2.15 per hour. Nothing really like getting stiffed by some cheap bastards after a couple hours of service.
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Old 07-06-2005, 01:36 PM
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Note that I said that the food/beverage industry is the exception. I ALWAYS tip waiters except for maybe twice in my life when the service was absolutely horrible. Dealers don't make $2.15/hr. so tipping is not mandatory.
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Old 07-06-2005, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Tipping tourny dealers

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2 thoughts on tipping, both of which are a little off topic.

First: I don't like tipping dealers. They have the absolute easiest job out there except for the fact that it's boring and repedative. I tip people who are in service industries if they deserve it. A dealer is no more deserving than the girl who bags my groceries. She only gets a tip if she does something above and beyond. The cocktail girls on the other hand, that's a different story. Also, tipping a lot eats into your profits and I'm a cheap bastard like that.

Second: The house sometimes takes a crap load out of the money on the table at B&M cardrooms. The rake is 10% in a cash game and there are even single table tourneys that have a 30% fee!!! With the house taking so much money off the table, they can afford to pay dealers properly.

If the dealers don't like getting stiffed, they can go cry about it. The food/beverage industry is the only one that is deserving of mandatory tipping as such people are purposefully paid like $3/hr. since they live on tips.

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This is terrible. Dealers live almost exclusivly off of tips. If you are playing somewhere that is 10% rake for cash games then you shouldn't play there that is very excessive rake.

In some places the dealers actually PAY to work and make there money SOLELY off of tips. Don't chince good dealers. It is a tough job and they deserve it.
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Old 07-06-2005, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Tipping tourny dealers

I spent some valuable minutes of my life looking this old thread up:

Discussion with Fossilman, Apathy and others about tourney tipping (link)

It should answer your questions.
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Old 07-06-2005, 02:13 PM
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The only time I havent tipped a dealer in a cash game, or live tournament is if he/she was a total [censored]. I usually am very generous with my tips. Heres a story about a time i didnt tip.

30 person live 200 dollar tournament at a card club in Montreal. top 5 get paid. there are 5 left. Total donkey limps on the cutoff, i raise enough to put him all in with AJo. He calls with TJ off and flops the nuts. very next hand im shortstacked, he open limps on my CO, i push ~8 bbs with ATo, he calls with KTo and flops the nuts again. I mutter some curses under my breath as i get up from the table, and the dealer says "why are you complaining, you weren't even going with good hands" in a very jerkoff sort of tone. So i take my 400 dollars and keep the whole thing. There. I cant remember ever not tipping a dealer other than that time.
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Old 07-06-2005, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Tipping tourny dealers

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Nice Guy Eddie: C'mon, throw in a buck!
Mr. Pink: Uh-uh, I don't tip.
Nice Guy Eddie: You don't tip?
Mr. Pink: I don't believe in it.
Nice Guy Eddie: You don't believe in tipping?
Mr. Blue: You know what these chicks make? They make ****.
Mr. Pink: Don't give me that. She don't make enough money, she can quit.
Nice Guy Eddie: I don't even know a flippin Jew who'd have the balls to say that. Let me get this straight: you never ever tip, huh?
Mr. Pink: I don't tip because society says I have to. Alright, I tip when somebody really deserves a tip. If they put forth an effort, I'll give them something extra. But I mean, this tipping automatically, that's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned they're just doing their job.
Mr. Blue: Hey, this girl was nice.
Mr. Pink: She was okay. But she wasn't anything special.
Mr. Blue: What special? Take you in the back and suck your ****?
Nice Guy Eddie: I'd go over twelve percent for that.


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I think I'm in the Mr. Pink camp when it comes to tipping people that work in casinos.
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Old 07-06-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Tipping tourny dealers

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It's customary to tip 2-3% of your winnings.

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is this true regardless of buy-in? for instance, say i win a $2000 wsop event. first prize is $600,000. i should tip between $12,000 and $18,000?

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Some tournaments hold a portion of the entry for the dealers so that needs to be taken into consideration.

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ok so say the tournament holds 3% of the prize pool for the dealers. roughly what would you tip then?

i've never won a brick & mortar tournament, but i'd like to know what's appropriate when i do [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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