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#21
07-05-2005, 04:51 PM
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Re: overcall, raise, or fold in big pot?
Looks about right. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
One thing to really think about when you raise here as well is if you are trying to drive opponents out or build up the pot. In this flush draw example you are trying to build a pot so if the bet came from the player directly to your right you should probably just call (if you face the rest of the field with 2 cold you may end up heads up - which is not what you want). Likewise if the preflop raiser was directly to your left it is often better to check/raise. This is different than if you had top pair weak kicker where if the player to your right bet you might often raise to knock players out. 
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#25
07-05-2005, 05:00 PM
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Re: overcall, raise, or fold in big pot?
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Thanks. I completely misunderstood pot equity until now. This gives me something to think about. [/ QUOTE ] No problem [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] Now if I can only stop raising from UTG with 72o... [/ QUOTE ] Hrm... well as long as it's not any two it's not terrible [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#27
07-06-2005, 10:06 PM
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Reads- If I remember correctly. UTG is extremely loose-bad preflop and aggressive but not braindead postflop. CO is standard very loose passive donator. Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: (7 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls. Turn: (12.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls. River: (16.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero ???. or should i lead the river... [/ QUOTE ] oops. i forgot to post results. so, this was one time i was absolutely 100% convinced one of them had an ace. of course, i was wrong. UTG has KJ, CO had QT. i suck.
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#28
07-07-2005, 09:59 AM
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Re: overcall, raise, or fold in big pot?
I think capping the flop is the wrong thing to do here. I call the two extra bets and see what the turn offers me. On the river it would definetly be wrong to fold your hand, i would at least call in this situation.
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#29
07-07-2005, 10:12 AM
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Re: overcall, raise, or fold in big pot?
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I think capping the flop is the wrong thing to do here. [/ QUOTE ] why? do you think these guys are aggressively betting/raising a higher flush draw on the flop?
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#30
07-07-2005, 10:14 AM
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Re: overcall, raise, or fold in big pot?
Why do you cap the flop.
Your only chance of winning the pot is by getting your flush, you don't want to force anyone out. It will not increase your chances of winning. check-fold the river. Edit: just saw it's against 4 opponents, so it's for value... Edit2: I now see you have the sucker straight, so closing the action in this huge pot is ok IMO.
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