2nd pair, should i call down?

deepsquat · #1 07-04-2005, 11:00 PM

1st orbit at the table, no reads.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

When sb bet out i put him on either a K or a club draw.

Turn: (6 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero folds.

Bad fold?

River: (9 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

hemstock · #2 07-04-2005, 11:08 PM

I think you have to reraise the flop for information

McGahee · #3 07-04-2005, 11:12 PM

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I think you have to reraise the flop for information

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hemstock · #4 07-04-2005, 11:15 PM

Well if he caps it you have to assume he has 2 pair or a king with a good kicker or whatever beats you and then you can fold. If he just calls it you have to assume he's on a draw and if the turn is blank, lead. Since the turn was a club you can fold then to a bet.
Right?

deepsquat · #5 07-04-2005, 11:21 PM

raising the flop is terrible imo, there is a bettor and 2 callers.

What info will i get? If they just call they could have a weak king. If they 3bet they could have a flush draw or a set, who knows?

hemstock · #6 07-04-2005, 11:26 PM

Then why call the flop anyway?

TALLBrad · #7 07-04-2005, 11:27 PM

I think you've played this hand well.

You have the odds to call with your 5 outs on the flop.

Once the turn comes you really don't have business in the hand. The fold isn't a bad fold.

I think you played this hand properly.

MrWookie47 · #8 07-05-2005, 12:06 AM

On first glance I thought you had to call that turn, but I was wrong. If it wasn't for the 3flush, it'd be an easy call getting 9:1. However, 2 of your 5 outs are clubs, so you probably don't have odds to call in this large field.

deepsquat · #9 07-05-2005, 12:08 AM

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Then why call the flop anyway?

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Because i have outs to improve.

Duerig · #10 07-05-2005, 12:29 AM

I like folding the turn. I think many of your outs are tainted here.