TT on Jack high flop

egj · #1 07-03-2005, 08:22 PM

Party 30+3. I felt like I would be pot-committed after any reasonable size bet on the flop. With hindsight, I am questioning that. Is the right move to bet 2/3 of the pot or so and shut down if raised, or even if called? That feels somewhat weak, which is partly why I went all-in here.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter

Button (t1680)
Hero (t810)
BB (t655)
UTG (t505)
MP1 (t890)
MP2 (t1860)
CO (t1600)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, 2 folds, CO calls t30, 1 fold, Hero raises to t150, 1 fold, UTG folds, CO calls t120.

Flop: (t360) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t660 (All-In), CO calls t660.

Turn: (t1680) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t1680) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t1680

Chaostracize · #2 07-03-2005, 08:28 PM

Don't raise here. If you do raise to t210. See a cheap flop and try to double up.

Newt_Buggs · #3 07-03-2005, 11:05 PM

with an UTG limper I am always completing pf.

Benholio · #4 07-03-2005, 11:10 PM

The problem with the overbet is that the only hands that will call it (usually) are hands that beat you. I don't mind a smaller bet on the flop, but I also don't mind checking and then going from there.

Also, as others have said, I prefer just limping with tens and playing them for set/overpair value.

Isura · #5 07-04-2005, 09:43 AM

You guys both have big stacks. I don't like the push, since we're only getting called by hands that beat us or are about 50/50 with us. I'd bet about 220 and fold to any aggression. Slow down if called, and try to get to showdown cheaply. I probably fold to any big bets on the turn or river.