If you're a bad girl.... - Page 2

Jonny Melon · #11 07-03-2005, 01:57 AM

Funny, I had a hand very similar to this that I wanted to post. This is my standard line here, and I have often felt that it is sub-optimal, but I really can't think of a more sensible line.

Well, I have been totally worthless. Maybe someone else can help.

Jon

PokerBob · #12 07-03-2005, 02:04 AM

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Huh? What would you advocate?

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You know, I misread the action, I am retarded. I guess this is fine. Why not bet/fold that river?

helpmeout · #13 07-03-2005, 02:11 AM

check/call the flop fold if he bets the turn

on an aceless board checkraise

Victor · #14 07-03-2005, 02:15 AM

fold preflop. if its the co still fold pf. if its a super aggro button call pf. then check call all the way down.

sthief09 · #15 07-03-2005, 02:45 AM

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check/call the flop fold if he bets the turn

on an aceless board checkraise

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ok cool because that's what I've been doing

kiddo · #16 07-03-2005, 03:30 AM

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Why not bet/fold that river?

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Because if he is on a spadedraw or any other strange hand like KQ he will fold if u bet but sometimes bet if u check.

There are both straight and flushdraws on flop. Easy checkcall on river for me.

kiddo · #17 07-03-2005, 03:33 AM

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check/call the flop fold if he bets the turn

on an aceless board checkraise

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Most hands u raise from CO is without an A so if u checkraise when A hits he will often have zero overcards. Therefore u should checkraise more when A hits.

If another card is highest, like J, he will often have overcard which will make him call flop and then maybe catch a draw on turn and call again. Those extra 3-6 outs that he will often have makes it less good to checkraise when there is no high card on flop.

kiddo · #18 07-03-2005, 03:36 AM

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Fold Preflop.

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http://web.archive.org/web/200306031...lop-abdul.html

Scroll down and look at blind defense. You are way wrong on this one.

helpmeout · #19 07-03-2005, 04:31 AM

A large percentage of hands people raise contain an Ace.

If he doesnt have one and you call a bet he will know that you know that a lot of raising hands have aces and you didnt fold so therefore its a good chance you have an ace so he will likely check the turn.

I'm not worried about someone calling with overcards they are making a mistake.

Trix · #20 07-03-2005, 04:42 AM

I´ll prolly play it the same.

I´m not really into check-calling the flop against an unknown as it´s hard to call the turn again and he will probably end up bluffing around the right frequency, thinking that he is actually betting for value/free SD with some hands between the 5 and A. 44/33 aswell. Mix in a bit of bluffing and you may calling may be right.

When it´s like this, then I´d rather check-raise the flop and make him fold those hands that you beat. The A is a pretty good card for that. You must check-raise holding the A or better sometimes too ofcourse. mix it up.