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Old 07-01-2005, 08:38 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Backing TPTK with my stack

Villain is a probably a losing player in this game but isn't an absolute donk. I think my line here is a big money loser long run but I just had one of those feelings where I was sure I was either ahead or chopping. Is this total chip spewing?

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MP2 ($85.7)
MP3 ($95.65)
CO ($176.85)
Button ($203.7)
SB ($146.85)
BB ($51.25)
UTG ($215.45)
UTG+1 ($293.69)
Hero ($221)
MP1 ($196.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $8, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $6.

Flop: ($27) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $50</font>, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($127) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $75</font>, UTG+1 calls $88.

River: ($290) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $290
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Old 07-01-2005, 08:39 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Re: Backing TPTK with my stack

I should add that the table has seen me fold to checkraises (even small ones) a couple times before after raising preflop and betting the flop. Unbeknowest to them, I had absolute garbage every time that happened.
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:53 PM
pilamsolo pilamsolo is offline
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Default Re: Backing TPTK with my stack

What were his PT numbers? Without a specific read that he seriously overplays top pair or is straight bluffing you, I think you have to fold the flop. Although I have seen some fiercely stupid play in this game, I still think this is (as you said) a losing line in the long run. My main problem with it is that if you're behind, you are probably WAY behind. And if you're ahead, it probably isn't by much. Even KQ and KJ have extra gutshot outs, and even more if it's KJ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Against a semi-reasonable player I think you can find a better spot to make a stand.

-Solo
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