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Old 07-01-2005, 03:21 PM
joker122 joker122 is offline
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Default Re: I Just Don\'t Learn

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it's a naked ten at least 10% or so, no?

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yeah probably a little more though I'd suspect he bets the turn with those, but JT/QT are possible. so is AK

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what about QJ???

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good point.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: I Just Don\'t Learn

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one big problem I have is I try to apply my logic to my opponents' actions.

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IMO this could be/turn into a leak for you. You play well. Many of your opponents don't.

As an aside, I have a friend who I am trying (poor guy) to teach/mentor at 0.5/1. He regularly falls into the "they could never have this here cuz......" and I constantly have to remind him that THEY ARE RETARDED and don't necessarily do what is correct or even sane.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: I Just Don\'t Learn

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it's a naked ten at least 10% or so, no?

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yeah probably a little more though I'd suspect he bets the turn with those, but JT/QT are possible. so is AK

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what about QJ???

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good point.

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except an aggressive playeris betting QJ 110% of the time on the flop
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: I Just Don\'t Learn

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it's a naked ten at least 10% or so, no?

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yeah probably a little more though I'd suspect he bets the turn with those, but JT/QT are possible. so is AK

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what about QJ???

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good point.

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except an aggressive playeris betting QJ 110% of the time on the flop

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you didn't.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:33 PM
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it's a naked ten at least 10% or so, no?

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yeah probably a little more though I'd suspect he bets the turn with those, but JT/QT are possible. so is AK

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what about QJ???

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good point.

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except an aggressive playeris betting QJ 110% of the time on the flop

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you didn't.

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Old 07-01-2005, 03:37 PM
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it's a naked ten at least 10% or so, no?

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yeah probably a little more though I'd suspect he bets the turn with those, but JT/QT are possible. so is AK

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what about QJ???

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good point.

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except an aggressive playeris betting QJ 110% of the time on the flop

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maybe he knows you are an aggresive player, and the A and TT scared him and he doesnt want to get raised.

yeah, prolly not, but it is possible.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: I Just Don\'t Learn

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it's a naked ten at least 10% or so, no?

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yeah probably a little more though I'd suspect he bets the turn with those, but JT/QT are possible. so is AK

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what about QJ???

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good point.

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except an aggressive playeris betting QJ 110% of the time on the flop

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you didn't.

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FWIW, I don't think I bet it either. I do exactly what you did, except I probably call the river 3-bet and then pound my right fish on my table and yell "[censored]", as I am wont to do.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: I Just Don\'t Learn

Call the 3bet, if this guy can check AT/AA/TT, then he can probably check QT/JT too on the flop and wont really have any reason to think it isnīt good after all the weakness he sees. There is probably a slight chance of AK or some idiot move aswell.

If you really think you are that far behind, why even raise the river ?
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:55 PM
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I like it a lot.

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Old 07-01-2005, 04:00 PM
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your giving him way too much credit here
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