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Old 07-01-2005, 12:52 AM
jwg152 jwg152 is offline
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Default The Difference between a Good SH player and a Great One

A great SH player keeps his play up when he is getting farked out of his mind. A great player has confidence that he is making the right plays regardless of the result, taking that intrinsic pleasure. A great player realizes that there is no "correct way" to play a certain hand, but that the optimum stragegy for the hand is largely based upon the context of the moment - the last 20 hands or so.
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: The Difference between a Good SH player and a Great One

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A great player realizes that there is no "correct way" to play a certain hand, but that the optimum stragegy for the hand is largely based upon the context of the moment - the last 20 hands or so.

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I don't think this is true in limit. What you call the "context of the moment" is important (and increasingly so the higher you play), but still just a secondary factor. It just swings your decision one way or another when lines are somewhat similarly attractive.
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: The Difference between a Good SH player and a Great One

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A great player realizes that there is no "correct way" to play a certain hand, but that the optimum stragegy for the hand is largely based upon the context of the moment - the last 20 hands or so.

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I don't think this is true in limit. What you call the "context of the moment" is important (and increasingly so the higher you play), but still just a secondary factor. It just swings your decision one way or another when lines are somewhat similarly attractive.

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I agree.. at limit, cards first, image second. Table conditions and other players' perceptions of you are definitely important to consider, but I think you still need a hand.
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: The Difference between a Good SH player and a Great One

The subject is not the difference between a bad player and a good player...
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:40 AM
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The subject is not the difference between a bad player and a good player...

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I agree that great players pay attention to lots of nuances that merely good players miss. Here's what I'm disagreeing with:

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but that the optimum stragegy for the hand is largely based upon the context of the moment - the last 20 hands or so.


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Old 07-01-2005, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: The Difference between a Good SH player and a Great One

I apologize for not clarifying. I'm refering to the borderline decisions, not routine play.
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: The Difference between a Good SH player and a Great One

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A great player realizes that there is no "correct way" to play a certain hand, but that the optimum stragegy for the hand is largely based upon the context of the moment - the last 20 hands or so.

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awesome point. i think this aspect of sh play is vastly underrated and the reason i cringe when i see hand posts that don't mention this at all.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:22 AM
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A great player realizes that there is no "correct way" to play a certain hand, but that the optimum stragegy for the hand is largely based upon the context of the moment - the last 20 hands or so.

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I just don't think this is true most of the time, esp. at 5/10 and lower.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: The Difference between a Good SH player and a Great One

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A great player realizes that there is no "correct way" to play a certain hand, but that the optimum stragegy for the hand is largely based upon the context of the moment - the last 20 hands or so.

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I just don't think this is true most of the time, esp. at 5/10 and lower.

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me either. Which is what seperates a great player from a good one. A great player realizes he doesnt have to use great plays, he just has to showdown a better hand. I dont think at the low limits image has really much consideration at all in the minds of all the fish you are playing against.
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: The Difference between a Good SH player and a Great One

I'm talking, for the most part, about 10/20 and higher...
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