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Old 06-30-2005, 01:23 PM
sweetjazz sweetjazz is offline
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Default DHP worthy? Checking an overpair on a 3-straight flop

I don't have PT available at the moment, so I'll have to give the play-by-play from memory.

I am at a good Party 5/10 table. The opponents in my hand are generally loose and passive for this limit. The villain who bet the turn has some TAGgish qualities.

Three people limp in early to mid position and I raise 2 off the button with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. One blind calls as well as the three limpers, so there's five to the flop in a 10 SB pot.

Flop is 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. All check to me, and I check.

Turn is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Blind checks, first limper bets, other two limpers call, I raise, blind folds, the three limpers all call (or maybe one of them folded, I don't rememer for sure).

River is the J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Checked to me and I bet.
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Old 06-30-2005, 01:50 PM
Padawan Learner Padawan Learner is offline
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Default Re: DHP worthy? Checking an overpair on a 3-straight flop

Sweetjazz:

I would just bet the flop.....I don't offer Ax or Kx free shot at me. Also, checking here could put you to some difficult decisions on the turn.
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Old 06-30-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: DHP worthy? Checking an overpair on a 3-straight flop

what is DHP?

I would definitely be betting that flop. I can't really think of any arguments for checking there. Can you explain what you're trying to accomplish?
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Old 06-30-2005, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: DHP worthy? Checking an overpair on a 3-straight flop

It is imperative that you bet that flop.
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Old 06-30-2005, 02:21 PM
Wepeel Wepeel is offline
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Default Re: DHP worthy? Checking an overpair on a 3-straight flop

OK... you need to bet this flop 100% of the time. This bet is for value and to not give the infinite draws out on the board a free card.
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Old 06-30-2005, 02:27 PM
sean c sean c is offline
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Default Re: DHP worthy? Checking an overpair on a 3-straight flop

Against loose passives I think your giving up to much value by checking the flop. I understand your thinking behind the wait till the turn to make overcards/gutshots have incorrect odds to call but against these type of players is that really going to work? I doubt it I would save this line for tougher thinking opponents and a smaller field.
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Old 06-30-2005, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: DHP worthy? Checking an overpair on a 3-straight flop

Checking the flop here is just horrible. You must protect your hand.
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Old 06-30-2005, 02:37 PM
sean c sean c is offline
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Default Re: DHP worthy? Checking an overpair on a 3-straight flop

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Checking the flop here is just horrible. You must protect your hand.

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Any four out hand has odds to call IMO the bet is simply for value
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Old 06-30-2005, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: DHP worthy? Checking an overpair on a 3-straight flop

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It is imperative that you bet that flop.

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by not betting you just gave someone infinite odds to draw to any number of hands(including overs)that severly cripple your holding.
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Old 06-30-2005, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: DHP worthy? Checking an overpair on a 3-straight flop

Can you talk to us about why you checked the flop?
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