Does that really occur often at Party 15/30?

Ivanapolis · #1 06-29-2005, 04:31 PM

The most of the time I still play small stakes holdem, but from time to time I take a try at higher limits. Yesterday (in the afternoon!!) I played about 200 games at 15/30 Party Poker, and I've seen the guys limping with A6, 64, K3.... and other fine hands.

But these two games made me think, that 15/30 is much more looser than -,50/1 at Partypoker:

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: (5.66 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (3.83 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (5.83 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 7.83 BB

Results below:
Hero has Qh Qd (full house, queens full of kings).
CO has Qc 9h (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.83 BB.

and:

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 6 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.66 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.33 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (6.33 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.33 BB

Results below:
Hero has Qc Ah (one pair, aces).
Button has 2c 2d (a straight, ace to five).
Outcome: Button wins 10.33 BB.

I never thought that such fish like these are playing at 15/30.

elindauer · #2 06-29-2005, 04:54 PM

How about your decision to bet QQ in a 4BB on an AKK9 board after being coldcalled preflop and called on the flop, or paying off a river raise from a loose-passive opponent with one pair on a 3-flush, 4-straight board?

Don't get too excited. .50/1 is definitely easier than 15/30.

-Eric

Ivanapolis · #3 06-29-2005, 05:16 PM

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How about your decision to bet QQ in a 4BB on an AKK9 board after being coldcalled preflop and called on the flop, or paying off a river raise from a loose-passive opponent with one pair on a 3-flush, 4-straight board?

Don't get too excited. .50/1 is definitely easier than 15/30.

-Eric

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You are definitely right about that, and that was also a reason I posted these hands.

At this time I already had reads on these two opps. As the queen came on the first one, I although thought, I've now hit my two-outer, but to my suprise he has called me with Q9 down to the river. On the second, I think I had to call course the pot was to large and... this opponent didn't play it passive and has done a lot of bluffing and raising with bad hands.

But my point is: CO called a raise with Q9 and a bet on the flop AKK and at the second - he called a raise with 22 against a UTG-raiser and called it down only to hit his backdoor-straight on the river, although there are 3 spades on the flop, and he didn't even have the 2s. You can tell me that I played these heads up games bad, but you can't tell me, that these opps were not extremly insane.

Stuck · #4 06-29-2005, 05:16 PM

People adapt to your play much more at 15/30 than at 0.5/1. Without knowing how you play, its hard to know whether their play was correct or not.