Falling in love with AA...

[The Yugoslavian]

[ QUOTE ]
Ok, what I'm saying there is that I would have raised preflop and bet the flop. Considering that OP completed preflop, he obviously must check-raise the flop.

The rest of my statement was about having to shove the river.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah...that's like 100x clearer.....but I *did* eventually figure it out...after pergasu's most helpful hints.

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I must be rusty with this actually thinking about poker hands thing, [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Yugoslav

[Pitcher]

Hi Guys,

I sure don't think I played this well pre-flop and on the turn. On the river, I am likely to lose all my chips pretty much everytime.

I almost never slowplay, but viewed this as a perfect opportunity. I completed for that reason. On the flop, I went for the check-raise, which I don't have a problem with. The turn was interesting because now I am thinking it less likely my opponent has a queen, but if he does and he is inexperienced (I have not seen this player before) he might reveal his hand with a small re-raise and I can safely muck. When the river card hit, I am gonna lose all my chips. I have the 2nd nuts. I could easily see my opponent re-raising with Q's full of tens (maybe he had 10-10 and was slowplaying....and I just rivered him) How can he know I have AA....? When he re-raised I considered all of that for about 15 seconds and decided I couldn't simply call and I pushed. I believe that is the correct play with the 2nd nuts.

Pitcher

[11t]

I've had really bad luck with the 2nd nuts [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I dunno, I really dislike the limp preflop from the SB early, you are letting 2 people see the flop for free and if they hit you can easily go broke (as was demonstrated).

The cold call on the turn though scares me, sure he could have a ten but what is he re-raising me there on the river? The worst hand I think he has is JJ but JJ most likely bets the flop. Perhaps I'm weak tight but I just call the river re-raise but then again I don't play the 200+15s but this could be a leak.

I tend to try to minimize my losses/maximize my gains early on in tournaments.

Statistically though I think you will have the winning hand the majority of the time at my levels but I just can't see somebody besides a pretty awful player overplaying a ten or pp on the river like that.

EDIT: After more thinking I go bust on the river 95% of the time and hate myself for not raising preflop

[11t]

Yah the river queen doomed you.

[Pitcher]

Hi IIt,

This is why it is so good to post hands. Your comment below is one I should heed:

[ QUOTE ]
Statistically though I think you will have the winning hand the majority of the time at my levels but I just can't see somebody besides a pretty awful player overplaying a ten or pp on the river like that.


[/ QUOTE ]

I am flat out aggressive, bordering on overaggressive. If you look at the hand this way, perhaps I could have just called the river. It seems weak to do so, but what player indeed, would play the hand this way without the Q? The more I think about it, the more I believe I should have called instead of pushing.
Good post, thank you.

Pitcher

[pergesu]

Huh? Any ten is very likely to play this way. And a ten's a lot more likely to be out than the queen.

You said you're borderline overaggressive. If this opponent knows that, he should be willing to play back at you with far less than the queen, perhaps as far down as queens full of sevens.

I think you're going to be looking at a ten the vast majority of the time, and anyone who plays a ten like that isn't a "pretty awful player overplaying" his hand.

[adanthar]

I very often just call the raise and I am almost always right when I do. You can say he played it like a T, but he also played it like an idiot playing a Q, and we all know how many idiots there are at Party tables.

That said, you brought this on yourself. 'Rare slowplay hiding out in the SB'...yeah, being out of position is a perfect time to just call a hand you'll never fold on any street afterwards.

[kyro]

[ QUOTE ]
I very often just call the raise and I am almost always right when I do. You can say he played it like a T, but he also played it like an idiot playing a Q, and we all know how many idiots there are at Party tables.

That said, you brought this on yourself. 'Rare slowplay hiding out in the SB'...yeah, being out of position is a perfect time to just call a hand you'll never fold on any street afterwards.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with this. Going broke because you played AA passively when it was the nuts and aggressively when there was a very good chance it wasn't the nuts is just asking to be stacked.

[poindexter]

You played this hand poorly on all streets. The blinds are 10-15 so you need to create a pot to fight for. What are you expecting to extract from the pot by only betting on the turn and river?

preflop: build the pot, no free flops.

Flop: checking gives him another free card and the pot is still only 40 chips.

Turn: you bet 80 chips into a 40 chip pot. What type of hand are you expecting your opponent to call with here? The answer is a good hand and judging from the preflop and flop action I would start to entertain the idea that his hand may have you beat.

River: he has already told you the turn Q did not scare him but you want to make sure he’s serious so you bet 125. He raises to 500. I guess I would have to call here also because the only card that can beat you is the 4th Q. Looking at the preflop and flop slow play the Q should become more believable. You decide to reraise here because after checking the flop and turn you have no idea if he is bluffing because you appear weak or if its because he has a monster. The reraise is a big mistake because the only hand that calls here is case Q.

try this line next time utg limps you raise to 60 utg. If he calls bet 50-60% on the flop. bet 50% on the turn Q and if he calls or raises here I check fold to any further betting. reserve the AA slowplay for levels 5-10