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Old 06-29-2005, 02:12 AM
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Default Falling in love with AA...

Hi Guys,

This happened on a PP 215 on the 1st hand.

UTG calls 15, all fold to the SB. I am the SB call with AA...(yeah, I know, no big raise, but I figure perfect time for rare slowplay hiding out in the SB)
BB checks, so 3 see the flop.

The flop comes 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Not a bad flop. No flush draw and while a st8 draw might be there, this looks pretty good. I check the flop and it is checked through....so no re-raise. A queen of [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] comes on the turn and I bet out 80. The BB folds and UTG calls. Of course, I am worried about my opponent having the Q. Then another Q appears on the river. Now I am pretty sure that UTG was calling with only a 10. I bet out 125 and UTG raises to 500. I think a bit and re-raise all in. He calls and turns over Q10........uggghhhhh.

Think I fell in love with this AA a bit? Comments welcome.

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Old 06-29-2005, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: Falling in love with AA...

Not really, once the third queen hits you'd obviously give him less credit for a queen than you would if there were two. You've got the second nuts, and he could easily be making that play with a T, 99/88, etc. Unless you've got a rock solid read that he'd only make this play with quads, I think it's pretty easy.
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: Falling in love with AA...

I question your preflop and flop line, but complete SB means you should check-raise flop. I think it's ok, but I'd never do it preflop. I doubt I can just call the river.
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: Falling in love with AA...

So his full house that he checked thru on the turn improved to quads?!?! I think clearly you really need to just purchase his luckbox....

Hmm....if you're going to fall in love with AA, this certainly is the hand to do it. Is betting the turn in case someone suddenly got a surprise flush draw helpful? Hmmmm, no, not really....I prefer a continuation check here.

And on the river, a T probably still has to pay off your allin so pushing there should be good too...yeah, I like your whole line (if you insist on completing AA pre-flop, [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ).

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Old 06-29-2005, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: Falling in love with AA...

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I question your preflop and flop line, but complete SB means you should check-raise flop. I think it's ok, but I'd never do it preflop. I doubt I can just call the river.

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What don't you like about his flop line? Do you really think he should just call the river?

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Old 06-29-2005, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Falling in love with AA...

The flop is the first three board cards. There's a round of betting, then we see the turn, and finally the river. lastchance says he can't just call the river. And as we've established, the river is different from the flop.

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Old 06-29-2005, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: Falling in love with AA...

So basically you slow played AA and then "unleased the strength of your hand" when the top card on the board paired?

I remember a Smashing Pumpkins song called Bodies where Billy Corgan screams, "Love is suicide!"

NH.

PS. I go broke on the river but I raise preflop. I put the brakes on real quick when the board pairs on the turn and I try to see the showdown as cheap as possible.
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: Falling in love with AA...

You don't turn up the heat once the third queen hits?
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: Falling in love with AA...

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The flop is the first three board cards. There's a round of betting, then we see the turn, and finally the river. lastchance says he can't just call the river. And as we've established, the river is different from the flop.

n00btard

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Umm....thanks? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Yugoslav
Who thinks he does understand lastchance's post now that he's read it ~10 times....it's just a bit jumbled...but that's cool.<font color="white"> don't maatta....black or whiiiiiiiiiiiiiite...b.abby wooo wowoooo</font>
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: Falling in love with AA...

Ok, what I'm saying there is that I would have raised preflop and bet the flop. Considering that OP completed preflop, he obviously must check-raise the flop.

The rest of my statement was about having to shove the river.
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