Who is Todd Brunson talking about?

[ClaytonN]

Everything just leans so much towards Hellmuth, though I did not know Hellmuth frequented cash games that high (???)

First Bracelet in '89 - 16 years ago
9 WSOP Bracelets

Let's also not forget Hellmuth writes books, does poker seminars, and promotional DVD's and other things (side money when you're broke).

And we all know he tends to get raped online.

Yeah, I am leaning towards Hellmuth. Especially if Chan mainly plays the big games in AC instead of Vegas, while Hellmuth lives in CA.

[TomHimself]

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Quit mentioning Johnny and Phil. Chan plays the 2k/4k in Atlantic City - That is his game. Phil doesn't play big cash games - we all know that. So make some more logical choices. Maybe DN. He is known not to be the best cash game player.

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DN would have been 14 or 15 yeas old fifteen years ago. So nope, don't think so. I think Todd B is talking out of his ass most likely. However if I was to venture a guess as to someone with bracelets who is a losing player at cash games.

Scotty Ngyuen.

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[buck_thunder]

Ok - My bad. Wasn't thinking straight. But my point still stands about Chan and Phil. Neither one. Maybe his pops. Todd is known to be openly critical of his dads play. The guy is complete trailer trash. The mullet kills me.

[UMTerp]

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Quit mentioning Johnny and Phil. Chan plays the 2k/4k in Atlantic City - That is his game.

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I saw Chan playing the big game in Vegas during last year's WSOP. Why couldn't it be him?

[buck_thunder]

I just don't think he plays there often enough to lose ALL his money every year to Todd. He is known to kill the 2k/4k game in AC. I just can't see it. There are more logical choices. His dad (and yes i know he has known him for more than 15 years). Tj is known to lose and borrow.

[wray]

The only way I see it being TJ is if you replace "Todd Brunson" with "random crap table"

"All he does is talk about bracelets and I take all his money." quote from a random crap table

[pancakes]

Layne Flack, Ted Forrest: just some others to throw out there (they both win bracelets and have a history of being broke)

others to consider: minh Nguyn, Juanda, Lederer, men the master, although i dont think they play that high anymore if at all but im sure they did at one time

[detroitplayer]

Put me down for one who thinks Todd Brunson is a d-bag.

[wall_st]

I highly doubt it is forrest. He is a cash game specialist and mostly has gotten broke through poor business decisions (see barryg's review of his play).

Layne Flack is a very good guess. Especially about hearing him getting wasted while playing the big game and playing very wild with hellmuth backing him (hellmuth later revoked the backing). Layne sounds like he has trouble controlling some of compulsive behavior.

[BISCO]

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Has Todd played Chan for 15 years?

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if you would actually read the quote it said that he has only known him to be broke for 15 years, not that he was actually beating him for that long.