pumping a draw and a bluff

thrillhouse7 · #1 06-26-2005, 09:00 PM

Cutoff is 30/7/.7 over 50 hands, button is similar.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Button calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, Button folds.

River: (12.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets

Deamon2 · #2 06-26-2005, 09:03 PM

Unless you think your turn bet legitimately could take down the pot (definition of a semi-bluff), I would check/call there. The pot here is probably too big to bluff at. This is where reads come in. If you think your opponent doesn't think about pot size when he calls on the river, do it. Any thinking opponent will call with nearly that got him here, so in that case I wouldn't bluff.

silkyslim · #3 06-26-2005, 09:03 PM

I think CO is calling alot and beating you whenver he does. If in fact he was on a draw and missed there is no need to bet. The only hand that you could fold that would be beneficial is ace hi. I think I check/fold the river

Online247 · #4 06-26-2005, 09:04 PM

I don't see CO folding very often here.

thrillhouse7 · #5 06-26-2005, 09:55 PM

Nobody has a problem with the flop 3bet?

aK13 · #6 06-26-2005, 11:22 PM

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Nobody has a problem with the flop 3bet?

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2 overs with the 2nd nut flush draw against 3 opponents on this raggy board -- it's ok. But, if you don't hit on the turn, you should usually check/call, since I doubt you're going to win with a bluff, and then you're broadcasting your hand to everyone.

scotty34 · #7 06-26-2005, 11:26 PM

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Cutoff is 30/7/.7 over 50 hands, button is similar.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Button calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, Button folds.

River: (12.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets

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Check-fold the river. CO will not fold often enough, and you will not beat him often enough to call.

thrillhouse7 · #8 06-26-2005, 11:38 PM

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and then you're broadcasting your hand to everyone.

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You mean when I check the turn after 3betting right? That is why I decided to bet the turn, but apparantly that is not enough reason to bet the turn.

Do I get enough out of 3 betting that broadcasting my hand is worth it. Or should I just call the flop raise?