A thread that you must read if you want to be successful long term

ClaytonN · #1 06-25-2005, 05:29 AM

A lot of you may have missed out on this post, but while it is SNG-specific it is some of the most valuable advice you will ever hope to get

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jaxUp · #2 06-25-2005, 05:41 AM

Thanks.

jgorham · #3 06-25-2005, 08:12 AM

That post applies to a lot more than poker.

xCEO · #4 06-25-2005, 08:20 AM

Super +EV

ClaytonN · #5 06-25-2005, 02:18 PM

bump

sholvar · #6 06-25-2005, 02:33 PM

done.
good thread but somethings doesnt sound true to me.
first: 6k Hands on one day? This are ten hours (breaks not counted) on 8 tables... i dont believe that...
second: on 8 tables concentration on EVERY hand?

I think that the things he want to tell us are okay (but not very new in my eyes), but the rest... hm... exaggerated

UATrewqaz · #7 06-25-2005, 02:41 PM

Is this that Scientology stuff Tom Cruise is always talking about???

Jokes aside, anything people need to think or say to keep them calm and playing well is of course good, but the idea of there being no such things as winners and losers is absurd in my opinion.

I guess his point is that everyone gets to have their own definition what winning and losing is. If you goal in playing poker is to have a good time and not lose that much and you finish down a little after a week you can say you won.

If your goal is to win money and you're down like 20000 BB after a few months you can hardly delude yourself into thinking you aren't a loser (in terms of how you have defined being a winner).

Being a loser is not a false construct designed by society, it's actually helpful. Failure lets us know our limitations, very much akin to pain.

If you enter 459 poker tournaments in a row and come in last every time your failure is screaming at you "POKER IS NOT FOR YOU. FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO" just like when you touch a hot stove your hand tells you "HEY MORON, STOP TOUCHING THE STOVE".

So work hard, eat your vitamins, train to the max, keep a positive attitude, and always do the best you can. ***

*** you have to picure Hulk Hogan screaming this sentence at you with "Real American" playing in the background

ClaytonN · #8 06-25-2005, 03:01 PM

Gigabet is a freak. He did not get one of the highest ROI's in the 15k SNG's for nothing. The advice is as solid as it will come, no exagerrations needed.

mdeck · #9 06-25-2005, 03:53 PM

That was a great read. I've made it a habit of checking hand histories, but it has only been in hands I was involved in somewhat.

MicroBob · #10 06-25-2005, 04:35 PM

Interesting read. I don't completely agree with the TOTAL direction of the post....but most of it hits home.

His dedication to each and every hand is what is most impressive.

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Bad beats are no longer bad beats, they are just the cards coming out randomly, evening themselves out over time.

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This is something I have been pushing on these forums for quite some time now.

The ideas he has about 'winning' and 'losing' are generally correct too imo.

His ideas about 'trusting one's game' etc is something I have just been thinking about a lot recently.
It's difficult to say because I'm still in the short-term...but I've been having some more success at tourneys lately..ranging from SNG's to 4-6 table statellites to slightly larger MTT's.

I think about each situation and I go with something that is a combination of a feebly attempt to get the math right AND my instincts/reads of my opponents.
The more I'm playing the more comfortable I'm getting and the more success I'm having.

And my thoughts on my recent successes as well as my thoughts on my ability to just not be upset if the cards don't work right for me are very similar to what gigabet is mentioning in this post.

Thanks for x-posting it over here. I think I should be hanging out in the SNG forum more often.