did anyone see this coming

badbill7 · #1 06-24-2005, 11:04 PM

so im at these nice tables and i consider myself growing player.but i still feel that my swings are to big. just lost a hundred bb in a couple of hrs and looking for more holes in my game. what do you put this fish villan on. and please consider im playing multiple tables at time. is anything wrong with this play i.e. can i protect this hand better.

***** Hand History for Game 2257570584 *****
$1/$2 Hold'em - Friday, June 24, 20:09:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 36507 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: TankShort ( $15.25 )
Seat 2: mikeb12 ( $201.12 )
Seat 3: ashok60 ( $202 )
Seat 4: marc2020 ( $4 )
Seat 5: DeVereHunt ( $47.84 )
Seat 6: shadow366 ( $136.69 )
Seat 7: hegemoony ( $109.5 )
Seat 9: BadBill7E ( $50 )
Seat 10: RODIRON222 ( $38.5 )
Seat 8: KEVBO72 ( $50 )
ashok60 posts small blind [$0.5].
marc2020 posts big blind [$1].
BadBill7E posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BadBill7E [ Qd Ts ]
DeVereHunt calls [$1].
shadow366 calls [$1].
hegemoony calls [$1].
BadBill7E checks.
RODIRON222 folds.
TankShort folds.
mikeb12 folds.
ashok60 calls [$0.5].
marc2020 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 2d, Qs ]
ashok60 checks.
marc2020 checks.
DeVereHunt checks.
shadow366 bets [$1].
hegemoony folds.
BadBill7E raises [$2].
ashok60 calls [$2].
marc2020 folds.
DeVereHunt folds.
shadow366 calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
ashok60 checks.
shadow366 checks.
BadBill7E bets [$2].
ashok60 calls [$2].
shadow366 raises [$4].
BadBill7E raises [$4].
ashok60 folds.
shadow366 calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
shadow366 checks.
BadBill7E bets [$2].
shadow366 calls [$2].
BadBill7E shows [ Qd, Ts ] two pairs, queens and tens.
shadow366 shows [ 9h, Ks ] a straight, nine to king.
shadow366 wins $29 from the main pot with a straight, nine to king.

Kumubou · #2 06-24-2005, 11:22 PM

You may want to use this little hand converter for readability and privacy reasons.

Here is the output for your hand:

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero (poster) checks, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, UTG+1 calls.

River: (13 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

As for the actual hand... do not post in MP2. Some would advocate raising pre-flop as you have an okayish hand and some real easy value on a raise.

Flop on looks fine. Villain could be playing some random two pair (like QT or JT) like this. I have even been seeing some players playing AA/KK like this. >_<

-K

matt42s · #3 06-24-2005, 11:22 PM

I don't think anyone would see that coming, but a turn check raise usually means business, even from a fish. I think you need a really stong read that he's a habitual bluffer before reraising that turn. 2 pair (not top 2) with 3 possible made straights and a flush draw out, you only have 4 outs to improve, call down the raise. If you only called the turn, he likely would have bet the river so the raise cost you 1BB at most.
As for protecting your hand - theres nothing you could do here - he bet his OESD into you on the flop. you earned a bunch of sklansky bucks raising top pair, decent kicker with backdoor straight and flush draws.

Edit : then again - I'm going through a 100BB downswing so may have become a bit weak