Kings vs. Nits

[Kumubou]

Now say that subject title in the voice of the announcer from NBA Jam.

This table was really tight by Party .5/1 standards -- blind stealing all day! I think half the table saw me as a maniac as I was raising pre-flop every third hand and paying off and being paid off on some random-ass stuff. Both villains were in the 15/5/1.5 range, folding a lot of flops.

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Preflop: Heroine is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, Heroine calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

<font color="green">Two limpers already? Odd. Meh, I really could not decide I should limp, raise, or fold. I doubt they are limping with absolute crap, but a raise would get me in position. I figured a raise was marginal considering the likelihood of people folding anyway, and my pre-flop edge (if any) is probably marginal).</font>

Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>

SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Heroine raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls.

<font color="green">Hmm. UTG+2 probably has a pair (or jamming a flush) -- but anything on this board would not make sense. A king would, but I figure anyone with a stonger kicker would 3bet and anything weaker would have been folded pre-flop. Button calling is not exactly cool either, he probably has something decent (flush draw?).</font>

Turn: (6 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Heroine bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Heroine calls, Button calls.

<font color="green">Oh noes, checkraised. On the third spade. So he either has trip Ks and feels that I do not have the case K (and he may or may not have me outkicked), or he hit his flush draw.</font>

River: (12 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Heroine calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, Heroine calls.

<font color="green">Now the Button wakes up! Oooookay. Was he slowplaying a boat or flush or what? Crap. One or the other I think I'm good enough here, but both of them? They both can not have trip Ks, heh. It's only one more bet, though, and this pot is a monstar...</font>

Final Pot: 18 BB

-K

[aK13]

2 15/5 limpers = I muck preflop.

[Vote4Pedro]

If the table was "tight" you shouldnt be playing crap hands like KTo. As for the rest of the hand, I'd play the same, I hate folding for one bet in a large pot, it just sucks you got caught sandwiched inbetween the raisers.

[silkyslim]

why not just leave the table if its so tight?

[Kumubou]

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2 15/5 limpers = I muck preflop.

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<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 29.6698 % [ 00.29 00.01 ] { KTo }
Hand 2: 35.1651 % [ 00.33 00.02 ] { 99-22, ATs-A2s, KJs-KTs, QJs-QTs, JTs, AJo-ATo, KQo }
Hand 3: 35.1651 % [ 00.33 00.02 ] { 99-22, ATs-A2s, KJs-KTs, QJs-QTs, JTs, AJo-ATo, KQo }
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If you drop the ace-rag s00ted:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 28.5326 % [ 00.27 00.01 ] { KTo }
Hand 2: 35.7337 % [ 00.34 00.02 ] { 99-22, ATs, KJs-KTs, QJs-QTs, JTs, AJo-ATo, KQo }
Hand 3: 35.7337 % [ 00.34 00.02 ] { 99-22, ATs, KJs-KTs, QJs-QTs, JTs, AJo-ATo, KQo }
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The folds have it. Just for my amusement:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>board: 2s 3s Kc
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 54.4502 % [ 00.53 00.01 ] { KTo }
Hand 2: 22.7749 % [ 00.22 00.01 ] { 99-22, ATs, KJs-KTs, QJs-QTs, JTs, AJo-ATo, KQo }
Hand 3: 22.7749 % [ 00.22 00.01 ] { 99-22, ATs, KJs-KTs, QJs-QTs, JTs, AJo-ATo, KQo }
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[ QUOTE ]
why not just leave the table if its so tight?

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Maybe I was getting paid? Stealing two to three blinds an orbit was nice, and people's desires to play back at the 'maniac' resulted in bloated pots when I had a legit hand.

Typically, I woud agree with you. By the time I was ready to get up and leave, several of the nits had left, though -- and replaces by typical PP players. Such is the cyclical nature of Internet poker.

-K

[Vote4Pedro]

what are all those numbers? are you implying that KTo is worthy of a limp on a tight table

[Kumubou]

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what are all those numbers? are you implying that KTo is worthy of a limp on a tight table

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The exact opposite, actually. 28% equity against their common limping range with three players? That's a pass.

-K

[Vote4Pedro]

gotcha, thanks for the stats