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Old 06-24-2005, 07:25 PM
avisco01 avisco01 is offline
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Default Fear the river?

Villain calls with any two suited cards, including but not limited to junk like 93, behind a raise no less. Not a very solid player at all by my estimation. Should I have raised for value on the river in this spot? I feared the flush / higher kicker:

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Villain calls, UTG+2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Villain calls, CO folds, SB folds.

River: (12 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB
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Old 06-24-2005, 07:31 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Fear the river?

I think this is fine.

When Villain makes this raise after all that cold-calling, I hope he just caught a king or is now springing to life and making a value-raise with his QQ or has some marginal hand and figures the river card is a good scare card.

I fear the worst, though.

Edit (just to clarify): What I mean by "I think this is fine" is that I like just calling the river raise. I would not 3-bet.
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Old 06-24-2005, 07:34 PM
Malachii Malachii is offline
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Default Re: Fear the river?

I don't like the river play at all. After he cold calls you twice, I think check/call is the only way to go here.
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Old 06-24-2005, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: Fear the river?

Play looks very consistent with a club draw. Probably marginal to 3bet hoping he has Kx, but if capped, you're looking at super -EV, so I would call.

EDIT: I disagree with check/call. We're missing out on value bets if he's calling with a PP, and even possibly a 5,4, or a weaker 9.
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Old 06-24-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Fear the river?

[ QUOTE ]
Play looks very consistent with a club draw. Probably marginal to 3bet hoping he has Kx, but if capped, you're looking at super -EV, so I would call.

EDIT: I disagree with check/call. We're missing out on value bets if he's calling with a PP, and even possibly a 5,4, or a weaker 9.

[/ QUOTE ]

Play is consistent with a flush draw right? That's the thing with poor players, never know what they have... I felt great the whole way until that freaking club hit. I was considering check / calling, but decided to lead instead, felt a little loose today!
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