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Old 06-23-2005, 10:39 AM
AmarilloJim1 AmarilloJim1 is offline
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Default Flush draw question

Sorry I don't have a specific hand here..I'll try to explain the hand the best I can.

3 players, including yourself see the flop. (3 small bets)

You have a nut flush draw and are last to act.

The first player to act bets, and the next player calls.

Do you raise for value here? It seems that your equity edge would be very small here, and I'm wondering if a raise is correct. Playing in semi-tight tables, I find myself in this situation quite frequently. To me it seems you could go either way, but I was hoping for some feedback.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:41 AM
Quercus Quercus is offline
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Default Re: Flush draw question

Fairly standard raise for free card.

Generally for value as well, assuming your hand has value outside the nut flush draw.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:56 PM
TredWel TredWel is offline
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Default Re: Flush draw question

A four-flush on the flop will come in 35% of the time, so by itself it's a thin value raise. However, nut flush draws also normally contain an overcard ace, and you could potentially have other small outs like backdoor straights. These extra chances turns the thin edge into a decent-sized edge. When you consider the chances of getting a free card as well, then the raise becomes almost mandatory.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Flush draw question

rrraise it...
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Flush draw question

but do you want to take a free card and give up your hand? Do you prefer to wait and bet the turn on a semibluff (if you don't make your hand), in which case the flop raise might not be neceassary. I know there is no answer without knowing the actual cards and the players but it's something to consider.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Flush draw question

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but do you want to take a free card and give up your hand? Do you prefer to wait and bet the turn on a semibluff (if you don't make your hand), in which case the flop raise might not be neceassary. I know there is no answer without knowing the actual cards and the players but it's something to consider.

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It depends.
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