Hand at Taj I want to double the raise is this a string bet?

[trevorwc]

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I have the nut flush.

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He saw my 34o which completed the straight.

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huh?

[Maulik]

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I have the nut flush.

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He saw my 34o which completed the straight.

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huh?

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sorry, that was a typo, I must have been out of it when I typed it earlier this morning. My holding was the wheel.

[tpir90036]

This is one of the most confusing threads of all-time. Just learn how to play live poker and this will not happen next time. If you had not gone back to your stack yet you still have time to verbally state your intention while you are stacking: "raise", "i'm all-in", "i have the nut flush with 43o", "my wheel is a flush." anything like that.

[mrkilla]

say bet when you want to bet, call when you want to call and raise when you want to raise. dont be a tool and just throw chips in no matter what your intention is call it out. If you bring chips out in your hand and your intention is to raise and your one short and didnt call raise befire its a string because you can not go back into your stack for a chip. If you do call raise you can go back and forth one chip at a time for all they care.
Lesson learned : call your action.

[Maulik]

indeed; lesson learned.

my "raise" was considered a string bet.

[nycplayer]

wow. This opens up all kind of angle shooting possibilities. Someone bets $100, I push out 2 stacks of 19 reds, bettor calls the 'raise', and then...

"Oh, sorry, I was just calling."

Not that I would ever do that, but some folks would.

[BillE]

i have seen this happen at taj before. cant remember what exactly the bet was. but the attempted raiser had 80-90% of the amount that would be the minimum raise. the dealer only allowed a call. the floor came over and ruled the same. looking at the a/c rule books, it would seem that the half the bet or more rule only applies to limit. without a statement of "raise", in n/l you have to push out at least enough chips to make min raise.

[Randy_Refeld]

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Villian raises $400, I want to double that. I stack my chips and am one chip short. What happens?


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Your intent is clear so this is a raise. Some floorman somewhere might rule incorrectly so you should amke sure. Also there is some chance the floorman has a piece of the other player so will rule in his favor so don't let it get to the floor. Also in NL you are aloowed to bet in a continuous motion as oppossed to the single motion allowing in limit (if you have all these towers of chips in front of you you can keep coming back to your stack for more but you cna't pause and look aorund around tha table); also I would not rely on the floor being familiar with NL rules.

[Jeffage]

Taj is unique in that it's raising rule is different from the norm. Simply put, you MUST bring forward all the money required to raise in one motion for it to be valid. Even a chip short is not enough unless you say raise before you do anything. This rule is strictly enforced there (AKA, if I put out 75 to raise the turn in a 20-40 game, I must just call). The Borg has standard raising rules (50% or more is a raise).

Jeff

[Jeffage]

Randy, see my post...the Taj raise rule is unlike any I've seen at any cardroom anywhere...and they are very serious about it. I dislike the rule, but like the room and the action.

Jeff