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#1
06-20-2005, 03:26 PM
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Moderately sized pot, 2nd pair with BDFD
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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.5. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Flop: (9.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero folds, UTG calls. Turn: (6.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG calls. River: (8.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG calls. Final Pot: 10.75 BB totally confused as to how i should have playd this.. should i have bet out to try to protect my hand? was it right to check? im sure i should have called f it was one bet back to me, but two bets? thanks 
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#3
06-20-2005, 04:12 PM
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Re: Moderately sized pot, 2nd pair with BDFD
Exactly how I would have played it. If it had been one back to me on the flop, I would have called, but needed a J, 9, or [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] to keep going.
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#4
06-20-2005, 04:18 PM
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Re: Moderately sized pot, 2nd pair with BDFD
On the flop it's two bets to you and you're getting 12.5 to 2, i.e. 6.25 to 1 odds. You've got five outs to two pair or trips and a backdoor flush draw (about 1.5 outs), so you're about 7 to 1 to improve. With implied odds I'd call this. If you don't improve on the turn you've got 5 outs left so you're over 8 to 1 against. I'd fold on the turn if I didn't improve.
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#5
06-20-2005, 05:38 PM
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Re: Moderately sized pot, 2nd pair with BDFD
You played this fine. UTG bet out into the pre-flop raiser, so that doesn't look good. If it came back one to you, closing the action, you could call, I think.
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#7
06-21-2005, 07:55 AM
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Re: Moderately sized pot, 2nd pair with BDFD
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Good fold [/ QUOTE ] Is everyone actually going to fold this flop, even with the odds in your favor?
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#8
06-21-2005, 08:44 AM
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Re: Moderately sized pot, 2nd pair with BDFD
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[ QUOTE ] Good fold [/ QUOTE ] Is everyone actually going to fold this flop, even with the odds in your favor? [/ QUOTE ] For a couple of reasons. Hero is not closing the action and none of his draws are that clean.
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#9
06-21-2005, 08:59 AM
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Re: Moderately sized pot, 2nd pair with BDFD
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For a couple of reasons. Hero is not closing the action and none of his draws are that clean. [/ QUOTE ] The way I see it, all his outs are pretty clean. It's a rainbow flop, so there's no flush discount. It's also not connected, so there's not much straight potential. Why do you think his draws are not clean? I'd call this and fold the turn if I don't improve.
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#10
06-21-2005, 09:15 AM
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Re: Moderately sized pot, 2nd pair with BDFD
3 bad omens all before you act:
1) UTG limper 2) EP raise 3) EP cold call of a raise Unless your poker tracker tells you that all three of these people are idiots, you should have folded preflop and saved your dollar. If you called the flop and the J hit the turn and not the river, then how much do you lose to your opponents' possible holdings? A9, AJ, AA, JJ, 99? You can make a case for limping, raising, or cold calling for all of these hands.
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