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I have been working on counting outs more carefully, especially on the turn. I'm not sure where to go with this one.
Only on 2nd orbit, but so far, UTG+1 is like 80/30/1. I read more into him not raising preflop than I do him betting the turn. He could have stumbled onto two clubs, but it is not a great holding (not AT) Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls. Flop: (12 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls. <font color="purple"> It's weak, but the pot's big enough that I'll call one back to me; fold if it's two back to me </font> Turn: (9 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 folds, CO folds, Hero ... <font color="purple"> So, what do I have here? First, I might be drawing dead to a flush. If there's no flush yet, the 8's are good, A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is worthless, 1 or 2 for the other A's. If I hit on the river, I can lead and get called for an additonal BB or two. So immediate odds are 10:1, implied odds are 11 or 12:1 </font> So, what do I do with this turn? Comments on the flop welcome also. |
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I call the flop for one bet but would feel better about it if BB wasn't in check/raise position right behind me.
I definately fold the turn though. I hate to be drawing dead and with 5 others calling the flop there's a pretty good chance of that. If an Ace or 8 hit the river and you would have won well that still doesn't mean it was the right play--especially since you're not closing the action on the turn. |
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