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Old 06-19-2005, 02:28 PM
raaustge raaustge is offline
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Default Top pair vs. flush draw

So this hand just happened. I figured I had best hand after flop because i dont think villian would play trips, if he had a five, so aggressive. Therefore, i figured he had hearts. Assuming the villian does have this draw was this the correct call? I mean if you know someone is on the flush draw, they will make it like 50% of the time. Is that right? So i guess does it come down to my stack size, number of people left, payout etc. to determine if i should gamble or not? There were seven people left and top five get money but assuming i was playing to finish top three i felt like i had to gamble. General thoughs on top pair vs. flush draw would be appreciated. Also, i know my raise was a little on the small size, would that of mattered. What about the fact that there was someone behind me still to act?

Hero is raaustge
villian is bigdanger

blinds 150/300

***** Hand History for Game 2231121762 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 13229479) - Sun Jun 19 14:02:43 EDT 2005
Table 3 - Table(370801) Table 1 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: lildeph (1713)
Seat 2: raaustge (4339)
Seat 3: Neuroxic77 (5158)
Seat 4: terli (2740)
Seat 6: Izzlaar (6087)
Seat 7: con465 (4929)
Seat 9: bigdanger007 (5034)
con465 posts small blind (150)
bigdanger007 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to raaustge [ Ks, Kh ]
lildeph folds.
raaustge raises (800) to 800
Neuroxic77 folds.
terli folds.
Izzlaar folds.
con465 calls (650)
bigdanger007 calls (500)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5h, 7h, 5d ]
con465 checks.
bigdanger007 bets (4234)
bigdanger007 is all-In.
raaustge calls (3539)
raaustge is all-In.
con465 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Jd ]
Creating Main Pot with $9478 with raaustge
Creating Side Pot 1 with $695 with bigdanger007
** Summary **
Main Pot: 9478 | Side Pot 1: 695
Board: [ 5h 7h 5d 8h Jd ]
lildeph balance 1713, didn't bet (folded)
raaustge balance 0, lost 4339 [ Ks Kh ] [ two pairs, kings and fives -- Ks,Kh,Jd,5h,5d ]
Neuroxic77 balance 5158, didn't bet (folded)
terli balance 2740, didn't bet (folded)
Izzlaar balance 6087, didn't bet (folded)
con465 balance 4129, lost 800 (folded)
bigdanger007 balance 10173, bet 5034, collected 10173, net +5139 [ 4h 2h ] [ a flush, eight high -- 8h,7h,5h,4h,2h ]
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Old 06-19-2005, 02:31 PM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default Re: Top pair vs. flush draw

you got your money in in a big pot as the favorite. this is pretty much a bad beat post. you did fine.
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Old 06-19-2005, 02:47 PM
davekngs davekngs is offline
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Default Re: Top pair vs. flush draw

Its more like 1 in 3 he will make his flush not 50% so you are a bigger favourite than you thought
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Old 06-19-2005, 03:55 PM
ThrillFactor ThrillFactor is offline
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Default Re: Top pair vs. flush draw

Easy call.

Learn your percentages/odds for the major types of draws.

They're important.
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Old 06-19-2005, 08:33 PM
nath nath is offline
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Default Re: Top pair vs. flush draw

Your play was fine and your opponent is a donkey.
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Old 06-19-2005, 09:30 PM
raaustge raaustge is offline
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Default Re: Top pair vs. flush draw

What would the percentages/odds be. s Do you know a good place to look these up. Calculate? I understand the math for one card left, but after the flop it gets a little iffy. Any help would be appreciated.

After flop

one card for flush
gutshot straight draw
outside straight
any other important odds
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:02 PM
Matt R. Matt R. is offline
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Default Re: Top pair vs. flush draw

You're such a [censored] lazy bastard.
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