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Old 06-17-2005, 03:36 PM
Sponger15SB Sponger15SB is offline
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My first hand, I'm the BB with QQ and 1500, a guy makes a 4 handed limp on the button, I push and he instacalls A3s.

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Old 06-17-2005, 03:40 PM
yid3655 yid3655 is offline
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Default Re: wtf?????

Sorry for being an idiot, ive not been around last few days what site does this concernt? Party?
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: My opinion on the changes to hourly rate

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This applies to those who play $50s and above. After doing some intuitive figuring, I think that each tourney will last about 5 or so hands longer. That's about 5 minutes. For a 15% ROI player at the $50s, the change in hourly rate would be something like a 10% drop.

In order to compensate, your ROI would have to increase ~1.67%. Do you think that's likely with one extra blind level?

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How much does your hourly rate drop if your ROI is 210%?

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10%, JOPKE.
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: My opinion on the changes to hourly rate

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This applies to those who play $50s and above. After doing some intuitive figuring, I think that each tourney will last about 5 or so hands longer. That's about 5 minutes. For a 15% ROI player at the $50s, the change in hourly rate would be something like a 10% drop.

In order to compensate, your ROI would have to increase ~1.67%. Do you think that's likely with one extra blind level?

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How much does your hourly rate drop if your ROI is 210%?

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If your ROI is 210%, why the hell are you worried about hourly rate at all?
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:52 PM
FieryJustice FieryJustice is offline
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Default Re: wtf?????

From the 9 games I played today, the only major difference is that when you get hu, the blinds are lower...but still big enough to where you have to push. I had 44% roi in my 9 games, so I think I like it, even though my mind tells me it is bad.
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:52 PM
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Default big deal...

woohooo! I feel like I've graduated from kindergarten and been accepted into the 1st grade.

seriously? I don't mind. This should bump ITM and/or ROI a bit for me, and I'm willing to put in a couple extra hours a week if it means my swings aren't quite as irritating. Stress reduction is worth $$.

more work for Eastbay though!
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: My opinion on the changes to hourly rate

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This applies to those who play $50s and above. After doing some intuitive figuring, I think that each tourney will last about 5 or so hands longer. That's about 5 minutes. For a 15% ROI player at the $50s, the change in hourly rate would be something like a 10% drop.

In order to compensate, your ROI would have to increase ~1.67%. Do you think that's likely with one extra blind level?

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How much does your hourly rate drop if your ROI is 210%?

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If your ROI is 210%, why the hell are you worried about hourly rate at all?

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Old 06-17-2005, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: wtf?????

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From three months ago:

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It seems that 2+2 has developed into a community of people that basically feed off of the fish at exactly Party (and, to a lesser extent, Stars) 24/7. Stars has more postflop play to start with but during and after the middle stages of its MTT's it's even more all in/fold than Party is. This makes almost all of us very vulnerable to anything that changes conditions. Look how many threads there are about the 10+1 games getting marginally tighter - should that even matter, given a moronically incompetent bot can apparently beat the 20's for over 10%?

Aside from the regular $200 posters here, I know that eastbay, Irieguy, lorinda and I, along with a few others, are all capable of beating these games at any level. I don't put myself in first place from that group, but I feel I'm one of the better players here, and I just realized I'm scared of a goddamn 13 BB AJo hand.

That's ridiculous and it's spawned by the ridiculousness of Party's structure and horrible playerbase. This can't last. It might be bots, it might be the end of the poker boom, it might be fish deciding that Party sucks and (insert site here) has been on TV more...I don't know but all in or fold specialists aren't the future of this game. That's too easy for a bot to do.

Right now, I'm playing on Full Tilt. Their SNG's and multis take forever but I can crush them and they allow me to play postflop. When that nice rakeback/bonus runs out I may move somewhere else or I may not. All I know is I'm not coming back to Party full time until my game improves enough to sit in at a $200, raise that AJo and know what I'm doing with it no matter what the opponent or flop.

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This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. There are so many posts like this in the Poker Theory forum. Any game that allows the pros to crush the fish will not survive. All games that keep the fish alive will. End of story. These comments are akin to a bad beat post.
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: wtf?????

I use flat mode, and I always just click reply on the last post.

People using flat compared to people using threaded view often seems to create a tiny bit of confusion that people often give no thought to.

In flat mode all posts are in cronological order only. In threaded they can jump all over the place.

I was responding to people in general not any specific person. I think I am among the majority of people who post this way. People who use threaded mode take posts personaly just because it was their thread that happened to be above ours.

In this particular case I responded directly to your post, and it appears below you in threaded mode. In flat mode this post wont be directly below you.

I hope my off topic banter has helped some people understand the simple difference. Especially the threaded mode viewers that are cramping my flat mode style.
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: wtf?????

However, even in flat mode you can figure out which post is being responded to, simply by clicking the link in the [Re:] box in the subject line. So it's still nice to actually respond directly to whichever post you want to respond to.
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