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Old 06-16-2005, 05:08 PM
@bsolute_luck @bsolute_luck is offline
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Default Re: Stealing w/J8s Dick Caught in Vice

meh...i'd fold the turn. marginal hand + small pot. odd play that he didn't check/raise you though, but also TOP suggests that in small pots, even if this is a semi-bluff bet for the flush draw, the best defense in this spot is to fold.

calling and folding the river is retarded. raising the turn is retarded. so you're either folding or seeing the showdown IMO.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: your mistake is definitely on the turn

got you.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Stealing w/J8s Dick Caught in Vice

FOLD THE TURN
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Old 06-17-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: RESULTS! Let\'s look at it from his perspective

Villain has 33 for the set and "donk bets" the turn.

This is awesome, IMHO.

The ace is a card that I'd like to bluff on if I thought that's how I'm going to win the hand, so him betting out is a great strategy.

Likewise if I have an ace I'm going to raise, so again betting out on this specific card is great.

I'm not so sure about villain's flop call. He can probably get away with raising, calling a re-raise and check-raising the turn, or something like that instead.

But given his flop play, I think his turn play is stellar.

His bet here looks so much like a bluff that a more aggressive opponent would be raising to try to push him off his bluff (I instead called to let him bluff off his stack).

--Dave.
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Old 06-17-2005, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: RESULTS! Let\'s look at it from his perspective

Classic raise on the scare card. Uncommon at .50/1 though and I'd probably give credit here.

As you state though if you don't fold 3-betting is a good line.
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