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Old 06-16-2005, 09:45 PM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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should have 3-bet the flop, and now given the action will bet and call a raise on the river.

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This is absurd
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:45 PM
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I guess using my logic, it is a fold. I guess I could just never see folding a flush here though.

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I agree that c/fold here would be awesome. Probably not correct, but awesome nonetheless.
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:48 PM
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Which part?
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:54 PM
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I'm actually wondering if we need to bet. What worse hand could he have that he'll call with here? 88? 55? 87s? 65s? (I doubt he'd limp UTG with that, and if that's what he's got and the suit is spades, he'll probably raise.)

I suppose maybe there's enough chance that he picked up a straight draw on the turn to go with his weak made hand to make betting worthwhile. But I'm tempted to check-call.

In any event, I certainly would have preferred for the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or even the 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] to fall on the river.
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:57 PM
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Is 'Solid Old Dude' really raising his flush draw with three players behind him? I really don't think so unless they're all super fish and he expects them to call anyway. The fact that he is a solid player makes me think he's protecticing something and wanted a cheap showdown.

I'm betting and surely calling a raise.

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Old 06-16-2005, 09:57 PM
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if on a flush draw why raise the flop and scare everyone off? semibluff?
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:57 PM
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Which part?

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3-betting the flop.
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:59 PM
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The fact that he is a solid player makes me think he's protecticing something and wanted a cheap showdown.


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What weak Q's is this guy limping UTG?

Then why not be the turn and check behind on the river????
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Old 06-16-2005, 10:03 PM
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Some people have suggested that the solid old guy raised his flush draw with others behind him, then opted to take the free card on the turn when he missed. This is exactly how a solid playing aggressive player would not play a flush draw. Yeah, he might raise the flop, especially if the people behind are very LP and are liable to call two cold, but he would definitely bet in a HU situation, unless he was really afraid of getting c/r'ed by you. I'm trying to figure out what hands he'd raise the flop with, but check the turn with other than a draw, but his play just doesn't make sense to me. I'm definitely voting against a flush draw, but if he were less experienced, then I would be suspecting one. This is tough, I'll get back to you on it.
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Old 06-16-2005, 10:04 PM
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This is exactly how a solid playing aggressive player would not play a flush draw.

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You could say this about any hand he raises the flop with. [i]
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