This one confused me a bit

[ArturiusX]

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero ???

I'll post the rest as it goes along. No read on the villian, except he raises a bit postflop. 20/20 so far after 10 hands.

[sy_or_bust]

If you're not comfortable folding outright (which isn't terrible), you should call and lead the turn. Against most opponents, though, I have no problem folding on the flop here. Even if Button is on a draw, MP2 will very often hold an ace.

[ArturiusX]

I thought folding outright was a bit weak, considering this guy likes to raise. Here's the rest:

calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

[og5]

I like it. What is the purpose of SNGing the turn?

[ArturiusX]

I was planning to call down unless another overcard came.

[chesspain]

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I thought folding outright was a bit weak, considering this guy likes to raise.

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"...considering this guy likes to raise?"

Huh?..the guy raised two of the ten hands preflop he played, and then raised again with these hands post-flop?

Unless you saw him showdown a weak hand he overplayed, don't you think it's possible that maybe he was dealt two strong hands within those first ten hands?

[ArturiusX]

Umm, no, the read was weak, but every time hes had a decision its been 'raise'.

Even after 10 hands, its a read none the less. I'm not betting the book on it, but more point was more this isnt a 40/0/.1 passive.

[ihardlyknowher]

Call and lead on a non-diamond turn.

[chesspain]

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Umm, no, the read was weak, but every time hes had a decision its been 'raise'.

Even after 10 hands, its a read none the less. I'm not betting the book on it, but more point was more this isnt a 40/0/.1 passive.

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FWIW, I have never heard someone use the phrase "every time" in a situation where N=2. Nonetheless, using your so-called read to justify calling the flop raise and then calling the turn bet with the Button still left to act behind you seems pretty bad.

[ArturiusX]

"Seems pretty bad" isn't very helpful. Why is it bad?