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Old 06-14-2005, 04:00 PM
Aeioux Aeioux is offline
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The really bizarre thing about this game at this specific casino is that the max buyin is 200 which is only 40XBB, so right off the bat the whole dynamic of the game is changed. My stack is short but by no means is it magnitudes smaller than many at the table.

I agree that only raising 3XBB was my clearest mistake in this hand, after sitting at this table for about an hour longer it was evident that this was a very loose table. Preflop raises of 25-30 were still getting around 4-6 callers.
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:07 PM
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When you first sit down in a game with such a short buyin, you're basically playing 5-card instead of 7-card holdem. Basically, you want to get in a preflop raise, then get all-in on the flop when you have an overpair or TPTK (or maybe some kind of big draw like AsKs on a 9s7h2s flop). Depending on specific stack sizes, amount of preflop raise, and number of callers, sometimes this is best accomplished by an openpush on the flop, sometimes by a checkraise. If the table is relatively aggressive preflop (and these games often are), limp/reraising AA-QQ (and maybe even AK) all-in is an excellent play. Did you consider a limp/reraise? It can be a disaster if you don't get the raise, but its sometimes worth the risk if you can trap some dead money in when you have the (preflop) nuts.
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:17 PM
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I thought about a limp raise, but a couple of other times that day I had tried limp raising only to get 8 limpers with no raises. This obviously put me in a bad situation.

What I was really hoping to happen with this hand was to raise small and have someone in a later position see too many callers and reraise. At this point it is an easy all in, but again things didn't work out that way.
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Old 06-14-2005, 06:29 PM
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So after I moved all in a couple of people thought about it and only one guy actually called. He turned over Q 10 so I was definitley behind but not out of the game. He was a favorite of about 70% to 30%. On the turn came another ace and on the river another nine so I made aces full and won the pot. I got pretty lucky on that one.
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Old 06-14-2005, 06:36 PM
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yikes yeah i expected there to be 1 caller. nice catch.
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Old 06-14-2005, 06:51 PM
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This is just to reply to the first replies about "pot committed"...Yes sometimes you can be committed if you are on a draw and you are obviously getting the odds...but with a PP like AA or KK and good reasons to put someone on an obvious straight, what is the point of calling when you know you don't have the best hand just because you are so called "pot committed". On a hand like this if you did make the 30$ bet someone suggested and got raised it is an easy fold...i don't know about most people but i don't like putting money in when i know im losing.
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: A tricky AA

Your standard PFR should be higher.
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:43 PM
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if table is so passive that they won't raise when there are multiple callers, what are the chances that they'll reraise when there are multiple calls of a raise in front of them?

If you are afraid of getting limped around on a limp reraise, then you must put in at least $30 here preflop.
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Old 06-14-2005, 09:16 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: A tricky AA

No other way to play it. But raise more preflop. You'll still get 7 callers. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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