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Zing Zing · #11 05-25-2003, 03:46 AM

Bah, chump stop making excuses, you will never measure up to my skills. Your just lucky my draw didnt hit, although a bad play on my part. When's the last time you won this? or Back-to-Back for that matter? The Legend of "Phil Hellmuth" lives on..... [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Simon Diamond · #12 05-25-2003, 06:20 AM

Its almost comical to read OCs posts.

Remove the word in italics and you have it spot on.

Simon

MS Sunshine · #13 05-25-2003, 01:41 PM

"Option B. Reraise and have a CHANCE to double up and a GOOD shot at winning this $10,000. (I mean he was on the button he could have anything k 10 , k j, 8 10, all of which I had beat)."

Against a random hand you're like 47%, and this is not a random hand raising. This is a tournament, if you pass here, and most likely the SB, you have a good chance to out-last short stacks at the other table before you must play a hand. You shouldn't look down your nose at the $400, because with your chip position that's more then your EV.

Winning this hand doesn't get you a "good" shot at the $10K first prize, but losing does get you the bubble. I've made many bad plays in PokerStar's $215, but I rarely admit to listening to a railbird for advice on how to play a hand. This is a case of you playing to the crowd and IMO making a subpar play because of it.

MS Sunshine

PokerStars Game #64755932: Tournament #111745, Hold'em Limit - Level XII (2000/4000) - 2003/05/24 - 23:58:53 (EST)
Table '111745 15' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: **PIRANA** (48198 in chips)
Seat 3: GamblerAndo (24078 in chips)
Seat 5: Quince (12760 in chips)
Seat 6: onlinechamp (4345 in chips)
Seat 7: LittleBuddy (16134 in chips)
Seat 8: Madelaine (23819 in chips)
Quince: posts small blind 1000
onlinechamp: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
LittleBuddy: folds
Madelaine: folds
**PIRANA**: folds
GamblerAndo: raises 2000 to 4000 Button raise
bigstick999 [observer] said, "make a move online"
Quince: folds
onlinechamp: raises 345 to 4345 and is all-in
GamblerAndo: calls 345
*** FLOP *** [7c 4d 2h]
*** TURN *** [7c 4d 2h] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [7c 4d 2h 3d] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
onlinechamp: shows [2s Ac] (a pair of Deuces)
GamblerAndo: shows [8d 8c] (three of a kind, Eights)
GamblerAndo collected 9690 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9690 | Rake 0
Board [7c 4d 2h 3d 8h]
Seat 2: **PIRANA** folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GamblerAndo (button) showed [8d 8c] and won (9690) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 5: Quince (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: onlinechamp (big blind) showed [2s Ac] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 7: LittleBuddy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Madelaine folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Gotmilk · #14 05-25-2003, 01:44 PM

are you sure a2 is only 47% against a random hand...that seems low...

MS Sunshine · #15 05-25-2003, 02:03 PM

Here's the chart I use, but I can't remember where I got it. The 1 in the second field shows that the hand is soooooooted.

MS Sunshine

AA 85.2
KK 82.4
QQ 79.9
JJ 77.5
TT 75
99 72.1
88 69.2
62 1 67.7
AK 1 67
77 66.2
AQ 1 66.2
AJ 1 65.4
AT 1 64.6
KQ 1 63.4
66 63.3
A9 1 62.8
KJ 1 62.6
A8 1 61.9
KT 1 61.8
A7 1 61
55 60.3
QJ 1 60.3
K9 1 60
A5 1 59.9
A6 1 59.9
QT 1 59.5
A4 1 59
K8 1 58.3
A3 1 58.2
JT 1 57.7
Q9 1 57.7
J9 1 57.5
K7 1 57.5
A2 1 57.4
44 57
K6 1 56.6
Q8 1 56
K5 1 55.8
K4 1 54.9
Q7 1 54.3
K3 1 54.1
J8 1 54
T9 1 54
33 53.7
Q6 1 53.6
K2 1 53.2
Q5 1 52.8
J7 1 52.3
T8 1 52.3
Q4 1 51.9
Q3 1 51
98 1 50.8
J6 1 50.6
T7 1 50.6
22 50.3
Q2 1 50.2
J5 1 50
AK 49.7
97 1 49.1
AJ 49.1
AQ 49.1
AT 49.1
J4 1 49.1
A9 48.9
T6 1 48.9
A7 48.2
A8 48.2
J3 1 48.2
A6 48.1
87 1 47.9
A4 47.9
A5 47.9
A3 47.8
95 1 47.5
96 1 47.4
A2 47.4
J2 1 47.4
KQ 47.4
KJ 47.3
K9 47.2
KT 47.2
T5 1 47.2
K8 46.5
T4 1 46.5
K7 46.3
86 1 46.2
K5 46.2
K6 46.2
K4 46.1
K2 45.7
K3 45.7
T3 1 45.7
76 1 45.4
QJ 45.4
QT 45.3
Q9 45.1
Q8 44.8
T2 1 44.8
85 1 44.5
Q6 44.5
Q7 44.5
Q4 44.3
Q5 44.3
94 1 43.9
Q3 43.9
75 1 43.7
Q2 43.7
JT 43.5
93 1 43.3
J9 43.3
J8 43.2
65 1 43.1
J7 43.1
84 1 42.7
J5 42.7
J6 42.7
J4 42.6
92 1 42.4
J3 42.4
J2 42.3
74 1 41.8
T9 41.8
T8 41.7
54 1 41.5
T7 41.5
T6 41.4
64 1 41.3
T5 41.3
T4 40.7
T3 40.5
82 1 40.3
T2 40.3
83 1 40.1
98 40.1
73 1 40
96 40
97 40
95 39.9
53 1 39.7
94 39.7
63 1 39.5
93 39.5
92 39.4
87 39.1
43 1 38.6
86 38.6
85 38.5
72 1 38.2
83 38.2
84 38.2
82 38
52 1 37.8
76 37.8
75 37.7
74 37.5
42 1 36.8
72 36.8
73 36.8
65 36.6
64 36.3
63 36.1
32 1 36
62 36
54 35.1
53 34.6
52 34.3
43 34.1
42 33.2
32 32.3

LotusX · #16 05-25-2003, 02:28 PM

what makes you suspect it is him? I've played with him and find nothing remarkable about his play. In fact he seems a little weak/tight.

sdplayerb · #17 05-25-2003, 02:29 PM

he was getting 3-1 odds and the raiser in a 6 handed game with a lot of chips could have a huge # of hands (unless he is a known rock).
even knowing his opponent has a pocket pair that is the right play.

Gotmilk · #18 05-25-2003, 02:36 PM

yeah that cant be right because it has AK at 49.7 but AKs at 67 -- Against a random hand A2 is a very strong hand if you deal out 5 cards im pretty sure

LotusX · #19 05-25-2003, 02:40 PM

yeah i think that table might be off.

62suited?

lorinda · #20 05-25-2003, 02:45 PM

heads up chart

53% according to this, it has hardly any hands dominated, so it seems right to me.

Lori