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Old 06-13-2005, 12:12 AM
ChuckyB ChuckyB is offline
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Default Re: best thus far

Wouldn't you get 26 outs if the 2h wasn't in opponent's hand?

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slightly better than previous

3h 3d Jh Th

Qc Kh
2h 2s

is it possible to have more than 25 outs?

fim

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Old 06-13-2005, 12:17 AM
fimbulwinter fimbulwinter is offline
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Default Re: best thus far

nope, 2h fills him up while it flushes me out

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Old 06-13-2005, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: best thus far

My bad...i'm a dumbass
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Can you think up a situation...

Dont know if this example has already been used b/c i dont want to read thru them all but here it is anyway:

you hold J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
villain holds 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

FLOP: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
TURN: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:44 AM
Suntzu00000 Suntzu00000 is offline
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Default Re: Can you think up a situation...

I think if the other guy has TP and you have middle pair and a flush draw on the flop and your kicker is higher than TP you are a small favorite (around %4).

My bad, this is only on the flop.
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Old 06-13-2005, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: Can you think up a situation...

Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villain: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Board: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Only 24 outs though.

edit: Interestingly, I had this exact situation (well I had QJ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] but same respective board) come up in a game. I pushed the turn when I was checked to, guy folded the ass end of the straight.)
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Old 06-13-2005, 07:40 PM
pzhon pzhon is offline
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Default Re: This one isn\'t quite what you asked for.

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you: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
him: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Board: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He is currently outkicking you. However, he only has 3 outs to a win. You have 11 wins with 9 spades and 2 nonspade 4's, and eveything else is a chop.

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Along those lines, here are two other examples not due to me:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1029479
Board: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 4.55 0 0.00 42 95.45 0.523
A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 0 0.00 2 4.55 42 95.45 0.477

Currently, A2 is counterfeited and outkicked. However, any 2 will give A2 a full house, and any other card will split.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1029468
Board: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 19 43.18 0 0.00 25 56.82 0.716
7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 0 0.00 19 43.18 25 56.82 0.284

Currently, 65 is outkicked, but 65 can win with a flush, straight, or by pairing. 72 hopes to split the pot.
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