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Old 06-12-2005, 12:50 AM
Dave D Dave D is offline
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Default Lagging it up with Aces, mistakes were made, but where?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (28.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (17.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (30.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 33.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ah Ad (two pair, aces and kings).
UTG+2 has Th Kh (three of a kind, kings).
MP3 has Ks Qs (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: MP3 wins 33.16 BB. </font>
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Old 06-12-2005, 12:55 AM
Emmitt2222 Emmitt2222 is offline
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Default Re: Lagging it up with Aces, mistakes were made, but where?

Don't 3bet the turn. There is no reason to because you are in a giant pot and that raise indicates that you may very well not have the best hand, but you would like to see a showdown in the huge pot. You are not going to move anyone off of a king and everyone else is drawing to only a few outs if you are ahead. You aren't raising to protect, you are raising for value, if anything, but I don't think you have enough of an edge to 3bet. Just call that raise and check/call the river.
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Old 06-12-2005, 12:56 AM
Dudd Dudd is offline
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Default Re: Lagging it up with Aces, mistakes were made, but where?

Well, I'd say the guys were way too passive with their trip kings. Besides that, I think your play was absolutely fine.
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Old 06-12-2005, 12:58 AM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: Lagging it up with Aces, mistakes were made, but where?

The turn 3-bet is pretty bad against most players (because you slow down a weaker king). Don't include results.
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Old 06-12-2005, 01:00 AM
Dave D Dave D is offline
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Default Re: Lagging it up with Aces, mistakes were made, but where?

you want me to edit out the results from the post?
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Old 06-12-2005, 01:44 AM
DemonDeac DemonDeac is offline
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Default Re: Lagging it up with Aces, mistakes were made, but where?

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you want me to edit out the results from the post?

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well people always make their responses based on what happened?

u get more, and better, replies when hands are ommited
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Old 06-12-2005, 10:25 AM
Grifter Grifter is offline
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Default Re: Lagging it up with Aces, mistakes were made, but where?

When UTG+2 wakes up and raises you when the turn comes blank, you have to figure he is slow-playing a K (and perhaps watching for the non-flush turn.) I'm not saying you should fold, but probably just call and then check/call the river. saves one BB, which isn't much but...
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