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Old 06-10-2005, 12:13 PM
Scooterdoo Scooterdoo is offline
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Default Re: amazing 2005 WSOP Event #2 story

But that's the point. He doesn't have a better chance against the all-in player. He's on a draw. If he misses the draw he has nothing. If he makes the draw he beats either anyway. Why not just wait to see if he makes his draw. Then try to get something out of it from the only player that can give him more chips. There is no more to get out of it from the all-in player.
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Old 06-10-2005, 12:13 PM
blumpkin22 blumpkin22 is offline
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This is a decision for all of Tomko's chips. Are you going to put your tournament life on the line there? He apparently did think about it for several minutes, so obviously it was a tough decision. Again, he still has to worry about the Marco's hand.
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Old 06-10-2005, 12:23 PM
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eh, thats kinda funny i guess.
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Old 06-10-2005, 12:53 PM
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Why is this guy "a drunk" and not just "drunk"?
These people are so judgemental.
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Old 06-10-2005, 12:55 PM
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It's not about having him beat, it's about improving your chance of winning. Even if he is behind, which he clearly is, he also greatly improves his chance of winning by getting the others to fold. The risk of course is that someone else calls. Eliminating the all-in player is not a concern at this time.
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:51 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: amazing 2005 WSOP Event #2 story

1) Assuming Tomko had and A (which I now think is less likely), how bad could his kicker be raising UTG?

2) Marco is not a problem here. His flat call preflop looks more like a middle pair than a big ace, thus if I'm Tomko with AJ, I'm not worried about Marco.

3) What's the problem with "risking his tournament life" in an event where the buy-in as at most a few big bets in a side game when the raiser is a donkey and the live player behind him poses little threat.

Again, nobody saw Tomko's cards. I'm more likely to think he had QQ-99 than a ace he'd open-raise UTG.

You're at a table with an out-of-control drunk who's asking you to take his chips when he makes an idiot play when you actually have something. Well, here's the opportunity. If he has a 4, so be it. Go to a side game and make money.
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:55 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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<shrug> If you're playing in a WSOP event and you're drunk, you're a drunk. Someone who doesn't have a drinking problem would be sober.
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:00 PM
UsedToBeARock UsedToBeARock is offline
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The drunk's move is clearly the type of play you need to make when it's time to get out of the kiddie pool and swim with the sharks.

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How could you so horribly distort the quote of the decade?
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:00 PM
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Someone who doesn't have a drinking problem would be sober.

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and why is that again?
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:06 PM
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Nice story.
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