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Old 06-10-2005, 05:38 AM
gulebjorn gulebjorn is offline
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Default Bad play on all streets, difficult call on the river... help me out

Interpoker 50$NL

Full ring, fishy table. Villain is sitting directly to my right. He's seeing 80% of flops, picking up a lot of pots without having to be too agressive, as table is very weak.

A few hands ago, this happened: villain minraises the 0.50$ blind to 1$. I re-raise with AQ to 3$. BB calls, villain calls. Flop is rags, both check, I bet 5$. BB folds, villain calls. Turn and river are more rags. Villain checks twice, I check behind. He shows K7 and I take it down.

Next hand. He minraises again, I re-raise again with JTo. I wanna play more pots with this guy because he seems to be paying off. My reraise gets five (5!) callers, he pushes for about 20$, all fold.

On to the hand I wanna talk about. I have 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the BB. 3 folds, 1 call, 3 folds, villain completes SB.

Flop (1.50$): 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Villain bets 0.50, I minraise, MP folds, villain calls.

Turn (3.50$): 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villain checks, I bet 2$, he calls.

River (7.50$): 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
He checks, I bet 4$, he pushes all-in. It's 23$ for me to call.

I think I played this hand horrible on all streets, feel free to point out exactly how horrible. What do you put him on and do you call the river?
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Old 06-10-2005, 05:57 AM
Caballa Caballa is offline
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Default Re: Bad play on all streets, difficult call on the river... help me out

Raise more on the flop, bet more on the turn. Check behind on the river.
Also, I think you have to fold.
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:02 AM
fuzzbox fuzzbox is offline
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Default Re: Bad play on all streets, difficult call on the river... help me out

In hands where you want him to fold you bet big, and in hands when you want him to call, you minraise.

He has 67/7T and you call and get stacked.

Make it 2.50 on the flop
When he calls pot is 6.50. Bet 5 on the turn. Pot now 16.50. Check behind the river because pretty much all the draws got there now, and he isnt likely to call you with a worse hand.
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:15 AM
gulebjorn gulebjorn is offline
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Default Re: Bad play on all streets, difficult call on the river... help me out

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Make it 2.50 on the flop

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Yea I know, that minraise was horrible. I cursed when I pushed that damn raise-button without entering an amount to raise.

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He has 67/7T and you call and get stacked.

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Nope.

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In hands where you want him to fold you bet big, and in hands when you want him to call, you minraise.

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I don't get it, is that advice or are you establishing a fact?

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Make it 2.50 on the flop
When he calls pot is 6.50. Bet 5 on the turn. Pot now 16.50. Check behind the river because pretty much all the draws got there now, and he isnt likely to call you with a worse hand.

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Sounds good.
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:19 AM
salloch salloch is offline
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Default Re: Bad play on all streets, difficult call on the river... help me ou

This is not the kind of hand you want to encourage action with IMHO.

Flop: minraise is terrible. Bet at least the size of the pot.
Turn: I might bet 2/3 to full pot.
River: that check is a gift with this board. I check behind and see if MHIG.

On my good days, I don't call thie river the way it was played. If player is as loose and aggressive as you say, his play looks a lot like a set or straight, or even two pr. I doubt he checks the nuts here, so I'm thinking he has a freak 2 pair that beats you like J9 or J8 or a small set.

-salloch
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:40 AM
gulebjorn gulebjorn is offline
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Default Results and conclusion

Thanks for the replies.

I was thinking so hard about what he could be holding that my time ran out and my hand was folded. The way this hand was played out, I couldn't see what I was beating except Jx, and I don't think he would checkraise that. He mucked.

So the better line would be something like:
Raise flop to 2$, pot turn, check behind on river.
Agreed?
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